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The Virtual Couch

Pathological Kindness: When Caring, Trying, and Empathizing Too Much Can Be Bad For Your Health

The Virtual Couch

Tony Overbay LMFT

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9668 Ratings

🗓️ 11 September 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Do you find yourself constantly putting others' needs before your own? Have you ever wondered if being "too kind" could actually be harmful to your relationships and well-being? In today’s crossover episode - Tony Overbay, a licensed marriage and family therapist, explores the complex concept of pathological kindness in relationships. Through a listener's letter from 'Cleo,' Tony delves into the challenges faced by those who prioritize others' needs to their detriment, often rooted in childhood experiences of being the family peacemaker. Cleo's story highlights issues with her emotionally inconsistent partner, Ray, unveiling the struggles of living with someone emotionally immature or narcissistic. Tony discusses recognizing these patterns, including the role of cognitive dissonance and trauma bonding in maintaining unhealthy relationships. He explores how highly sensitive people (HSPs) may be particularly vulnerable to these dynamics. The episode emphasizes the importance of developing a stable core identity, setting boundaries, and balancing kindness with self-care. Tony also touches on the challenges of breaking free from intermittent reinforcement in relationships and recognizing and trusting one's own perceptions. He stresses the role of therapy and self-awareness in breaking free from unhealthy cycles and fostering emotionally mature relationships while also offering hope to those who recognize themselves as the emotionally immature partner and want to change. 00:00 Introduction and Podcast Promotion 01:19 Introducing Cleo's Story 03:16 Cleo's Relationship Struggles 10:38 Understanding Pathological Kindness 16:28 The Impact of Pathological Kindness 21:36 Balancing Kindness and Self-Care 25:09 Exploring Self-Reliance and Its Pitfalls 25:24 The Dual Nature of Optimism 25:40 Understanding Humility and Self-Deprecation 26:26 The Complexities of Honesty 27:09 Patience vs. Passivity 27:24 Competence and Arrogance 28:00 Cleo's Relationship with Ray 29:04 The Struggle of Highly Sensitive People 29:48 The Challenge of Leaving Toxic Relationships 33:23 The Cognitive Dissonance and Trauma Bonding 45:04 The Importance of Self-Care and Boundaries 46:03 Encouragement for Personal Growth To learn more about Tony's upcoming re-release of the Magnetic Marriage course, his Pathback Recovery course, and more, sign up for his newsletter through the link at https://linktr.ee/virtualcouch Available NOW: Tony's "Magnetic Marriage Mini-Course" is only $25. https://magneticmarriage.mykajabi.com/magnetic-marriage-mini-course Subscribe to Tony's latest podcast, "Waking Up to Narcissism Q&A - Premium Podcast," on the Apple Podcast App. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/waking-up-to-narcissism-q-a/id1667287384 Go to http://tonyoverbay.com/workshop to sign up for Tony's "Magnetize Your Marriage" virtual workshop. The cost is only $19, and you'll learn the top 3 things you can do NOW to create a Magnetic Marriage. You can learn more about Tony's pornography recovery program, The Path Back, by visiting http://pathbackrecovery.com And visit Tony mentioned a product that he used to take out all of the "uh's" and "um's" that, in his words, "must be created by wizards and magic!" because it's that g

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, welcome to episode 4.5. Come on in and take a seat on the virtual couch.

0:22.6

Hey, everybody. Welcome to episode 427 of the virtual couch. I am your host, Tony Overbay. I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist, certified mindful habit coach. And I'm excited to be here today. And we're going to get right to today's topic. Of course, I would love for you to sign up for my newsletter.

0:39.8

Go to tonyoverbay.com or follow me on social media, Instagram at virtual.couch,

0:45.6

TikTok at virtual couch, Facebook.

0:47.9

I think that's Tony Overbay licensed marriage and family therapist.

0:50.5

All those wonderful things.

0:51.4

And if you like the podcast, if you ever get the chance, please review or rate, subscribe YouTube.

0:57.8

Actually, go there.

0:59.0

And the virtual couch is on YouTube.

1:01.5

I put most of the videos up there.

1:03.1

And then there's a lot of YouTube shorts that touch on things that aren't necessarily things that come from the podcast as well.

1:08.1

And there's all the promotion.

1:09.4

Let's get to today because this is one of these topics that I just enjoy so much.

1:13.4

We're going to talk about relationships, and we're going to talk about people in their

1:17.6

different roles and relationships.

1:19.3

And I think the best way to do it is I am going to dive into an email.

1:23.9

The email is from a listener named Cleo, and they let me know that that was not their

1:29.1

real name, and their partner is not their real name as well. But her story, it touches on a lot of

1:34.8

concepts that I want to go over. I'm going to read the email in chunks, and we'll take a lot of time

1:42.0

here to break down as much of it as I can. So let me start by

1:45.8

reading the letter and then we're going to go break it down in detail. She says the letter.

1:50.0

It is an email. I don't even know if they're referred to as letters anymore. She sent me an email.

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