Welcome to the Eric Mettaxas show with your host, Eric Mettaxas.

Hey there, folks.

Today's Monday, and usually on Mondays, when we can, we like to do what we call Miracle Monday.

On Miracle Monday, we talk more than usually about God, miracles, you know, all that crazy stuff that I believe in, all that crazy stuff, we talk about it and maybe give you an

opportunity to hear something that you're not going to hear, oh, on NBC or PBS or a place like

that. So today, uh, we have Pastor Mike Thompson, uh, as our guest. He's been on the program

before. Pastor Mike Thompson, welcome.

Oh, hi there, Eric. So good to be here.

You are, you know, when people talk to me about Eric, where do you get hope from?

Why are you positive about what's going on in the country?

Usually your name comes up because I think that, you know,

it's one thing to read the tea leaves in the natural and to see what is happening and what is possible and what is going on. And there are many good reasons to be hopeful. But also,

Suzanne and I have listened to a number of voices, yours principle among

them, of people who claim to hear from God, and Suzanne and I are crazy enough to actually believe

that because we like to cling to our faith. No, I have to joke.

I think some people are inclined to believe too much, to listen to anybody in anything. And there are

other people that are a little cynical and doesn't matter if you hit them over the head with

facts.

They're not inclined.

And I always think it's important to be critical and to be careful what voices we listen to,

which is why Suzanne and I have tuned into you over the last couple of years because there's

a deep sobriety and respect for the

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