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John was 21 years old when he had an adverse reaction to anesthesia during a surgery

and ended up dead for seven minutes during which time he had an unbelievable encounter with

a spirit guide. He saw a life review. He saw what happens to our souls on the other side

and he came back with a message that we're gonna reveal in this part of our conversation with John J. Davis. We touch on his understanding of God and the love that God has for humanity as well as how life reviews help the soul evolve. He also met Jesus in a meadow and the interaction sent him back to Earth with a mission that he will share. Please enjoy part two of our conversation with John J. Davis. Break it down. So here's the meadow part now. So we leave the castle and he takes me to the the most perfect, beautiful meadow I have ever seen.

They were rolling green hills, the sun was out, not a cloud in the sky and there were all these wildflowers and then my guide, Alan, left. And I thought I was standing in this meadow by myself. So I go like this, I turn around to look at the rest of the meadow, and there's a gentleman standing right in front of me. He had a white golden gown on, and he had a golden sash around his waist, and he had gold colored sandals that laced up his calves all the way to his knees. And he didn't tell me who he was, but I knew this was the being that we know is Jesus. When I looked at his face, he was different than everybody else I saw. Sorry, I thought you were gonna say he was different than every painter in history who's like, he's got Blum, Aaron, Blue Eyes. Also, he's such a meetal when actual Jesus was probably like five, two and very, very dark, yes. Yep, exactly. Well, that's the part when I went to look at his face, there was all this light that was coming, it looked like lightning coming out of his face. There was so much light that I couldn't see what he'd looked like, but he spoke to me and he said, what does voice sound like? What did his voice sound like? It just, it sounded sounded it sounded deep and authoritarian but

that's all I know it and I think it's because of what he said to me he said you must tell them there is no death and that very second when he said that boom I I will write back up in the operating room.

What?

Yeah.

You must tell them there is no death. And it was so interesting about that as it was the way that he said it. He didn't say, you know what, John, when you have time, when you're not busy, when it's convenient for you,

would you share people, tell people what we shared with you? He didn't say it that way. You must tell them there is no death. And so that's what I'm again. So your eyes pop open. What happens next? The first thing that I said, everyone who was looking at me when I when I opened up my eyes, I said, what just happened? You were supposed to say there is no death john. You already started on the wrong foot. Exactly. I already screwed up from the from the beginning. So I said, what just happened, thinking that they knew what happened and they said, we lost you. I said, what do you mean? They said, you actually died and I thought, that's insane. I said, how long was I dead? They said seven minutes. But it felt like hours this, yes, exactly. And I could not, I had, I, my mind was so blown away. Did you say anything to anyone or you kind of like go into recovery, meaning they, you know, finish discharging you. When did you tell the first person what you experienced? I told my mom on the way home. I couldn't have the surgery. They had to postpone it and we had to reschedule it. So my mom drives me back home. I told her immediately what had happened. And the only book that was out like this back in 1987, do you remember Raymond Moody? Of course, we've spoken to him here, yeah. Oh, excellent. He wrote that book called Life After Life. And my mom gave me that book. And I read the whole thing that day and that's when I realized oh my gosh

I

Saw what I've always been taught to be called heaven I

Was in heaven they don't call it that they call it the other side

I don't know why but they don't they don't call it well most of them call it home. They just call it home

But Christianity knows it is heaven so I read the whole book and that's when I realized that I had an experience that what we now call an NDE, but there was no terminology for that back in 1987. And I went through a horrible, horrible depression for about two months after this, because I did not want to be here. I wanted to be where I never wanted to leave there. I wanted to go back and stay there. I even thought about committing suicide because I didn't want to be here. And then I began to realize that the kind of hope that that experience gave me, it wasn't for me. It was for me to share it with others so that people don't have to be afraid of dying. There is such a fear of death that we don't even talk about it in our culture, but it's going to be the happiest day any of us ever know,

because we get to go home again. And all the painful things, all the trauma, all the hurt that you've

gone through in your lifetime, it's all gone when you get back. And it's replaced with learning

and knowledge and who you became. And something I like to tell people is that in our culture, we are raised to believe that your success is based on what you have, what did you get in your life? Did you get the big house? Do you have the expensive car? Did you have the million dollar 401k? None of those things matter on the other side. Because to them, success is based on, who did you help in your lifetime? Who did you become? Did you live a kind life? Did you try to make a difference? Those are the things that matter. I want to give what might be a skeptical read of the descriptions that you gave. Because the fact is we don't know anything about you at 21. We don't know anything about what you experienced. The take that some people might have. And this would fit in a logical sense. If you were to tell me, John, like, I was a 21-year-old who loved Greek and Roman architecture. I was fascinated with medieval castles. These were the things that I enjoyed to study and learn about. I loved libraries. Then we might say that the experience you had, right, took all of the things that were in your brain, things that had been coded, right? And they transposed them onto your experience. Elizabeth Krohn talked about, she loves gardening. And she felt that her

experience of heaven was a garden, but that for other people, it might not be a garden, right? That our personal makeup, our experiences, you know, what's been encoded, let's say on this planet, in this incarnation, that might be placed into our NDE.

So can you describe for us were there elements of things that you knew about and were interested in that played into your NDE or do you believe that some of the images and imagery that you saw and experienced are those universal images that you believe many people might have if they have an ND. My initial thought when all this happened was this must have been some kind of a dream or some kind of a host and Asian. But then even in my life now, Now I don't remember my dreams. I rarely remember what I dreamed about. I've never had hallucinations. I wasn't on any kind of medication back then. And I hadn't even gone to college yet. I didn't go to college until I was 29. I had never studied anything about Greek or Roman architecture. I didn't know anything about art history. I didn't know anything about libraries or any of the stuff that they showed me. It was all... Everything was so new to me. I was like, oh my gosh, this stuff is really real. It was absolutely extraordinary. In every single time I share my story, I feel like I'm right back there again. And it's that same wonder, that same feeling, like we mentioned earlier about that Harry Potter feeling, that everything is magical. It's absolutely the most extraordinary place I have ever been. Well, my next question, and I don't mean to have like a deathmatch against NDEs, but when some people have an NDE, you know, their experience is obviously different from yours. And many of them have very elaborate and very fleshed out images of where you go and what the life review is like and the life planning. The elements are, I mean, I would say close to identical, right, that we see statistically and we've gotten to speak to Jim Tucker and Bruce Grayson, you know, all these people who study and catalog these things from a clinical perspective. So I'm curious what your take is. And like I said, I'm not asking you to go ahead to head with other NDEs, but is your personal belief that this place, right? This place

that you went, is that the place that we go or was that your experience? It's one of the places we go. The places that they took me to, everybody, everybody at some point goes there. It's it's almost like the hub of a city. I got the I got the

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