Part Two: Arminius and the Battle of Teutoburg Forest: How the Barbarians Broke the Roman Legions

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🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Margaret continues her talk with Hazel about how the Romans were stopped from conquering Germania and how a bunch of terrible people are excited about it.

Sources:

https://www.thecollector.com/teutonic-meaning/

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-ambush-that-changed-history-72636736/?c=y&page=3

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/new-excavation-will-examine-germanys-legendary-founding-battle-180964235/

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/sculpted-horse-head-complicates-legendary-roman-conquest-german-barbarians-180970077/

https://archaeology.org/issues/online/collection/germany-roman-town-waldgirmes/

https://web.archive.org/web/20110714211343/http://www.nujournal.com/page/content.detail/id/509454.html

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/article/havoc-in-the-teutoburger-forest/

https://web.archive.org/web/20140428164647/http://www.livius.org/q/quinctilius/varus.htmlhttps://www.jstor.org/stable/3567880

https://the-past.com/feature/arminius-hitlers-barbarian-hero/

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Annals_(Tacitus)/Book_2#88

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0:00.0	This is an IHeart podcast.
0:06.1	CallZone Media
0:07.3	Hello and welcome to cool people who did cool stuff.
0:11.7	Your twice a week reminder that I introduced the show the same time, every time.
0:15.5	It never changes.
0:16.6	This is always the script.
0:17.9	My name is Margaret Kiljoy and I'm the host. I think you probably inferred that I might even implied it. But my guest is Hazel Ocacia. Hi, how are you? Hi, Margaret. I'm doing okay. How are you? I'm all right. I'm hungry. I'm always hungry by the time I'm recording these. I ate a bunch of hot Cheetos on the break and now my mouth is on fire.
0:39.9	Excellent. I ate some pretzel chips. They were good.
0:43.8	We also have a producer whose name Sophie, who's not on the call. And we also have an audio engineer named Eva, who's also not on the call, but is listening.
0:52.1	Hi, Eva.
0:53.1	Hi, Eva.
1:27.8	And our theme music was written for us by Unwoman. And this is part two of a two-parter about a story that I wasn't sure I wanted to tell. But I actually find it a very entertaining story with lots of interesting information. It's just that I can't run around and be like, I want to claim this man as a hero. But also, that's like one of the main lessons of the show, right, anyway, is that hero worship is bad. I know I went on a long rant about how I love Roger Casement. Maybe things are blurry. Maybe sometimes it's okay to have heroes. Interesting. And also, we can't let the Nazis have everything, right?
1:28.3	Yeah.
1:32.1	The reasons why the Nazis like this guy are not the reasons why you like this guy.
1:34.5	I know, and they get real mad.
1:38.6	But I also am like, I like a thing that this guy did.
1:39.6	That's all I know.
1:42.6	I just know a thing that he did that I think is cool.
1:44.9	And it's enough to have made into the history books.
1:49.5	It's almost like, you know, we can all agree to have, you know,
1:53.2	a healthy and respectful amount of admiration for a person.
1:54.8	We're not getting weird about it.
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