Part Two: Antonio Salazar: The Smartest Fascist Dictator
Behind the Bastards
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🗓️ 17 July 2025
⏱️ 87 minutes
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Summary
Antonio Salazar spends his post-war years helping the CIA learn how to torture people and starting a disastrous war with a large portion of Africa. Then he dies! Hooray!
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Antonio Salazar de Oliveira of Portugal and his Estado Novo
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50 years ago, the Carnation Revolution ended Portugal's dictatorship in one night
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| 0:00.0 | Callsor Media. |
| 0:04.5 | Hey everybody. |
| 0:05.6 | It's Behind the Bastards, the podcast that you know what it is because you're listening to it. |
| 0:10.9 | And you're listening to Part 2 of our episodes on Antonio Salazar, so you're probably not |
| 0:14.8 | tuning into the show for the first time going, I wonder what this series is. |
| 0:19.0 | I'm going to click on an episode about a guy I've never heard of that's clearly labeled as part two. Like, no one, who would do that? They're not part tuning in. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Who would do, like, no one. Don't laugh. Sophie, no. It was good. No, I liked it. That's okay. It's okay. Spray into the water bottle. So our guest today, Jeff May. |
| 0:41.9 | That rhymed, but I didn't mean for it, too. Look, man, I have a very rhymable name. You do, |
| 0:47.6 | you do. It's true. It's useful. It's like a permissive verb. It was useful in this exactly |
| 0:52.6 | one instance. It's a month. Like people love, some teachers saw my name and they never stopped. No, no. Yeah, you can vamp on that for solid 15 minutes of what's supposed to be math class. Oh, it was great. Jeff May, if you were Jeff April, we would not have had you on the show. |
| 1:11.4 | Oh, I get it. |
| 1:12.4 | Facts. |
| 1:12.7 | Yeah, absolutely not. |
| 1:15.6 | Jeff, Jeff, June, maybe. |
| 1:19.4 | That actually has a kind of nice ring to it, you know? |
| 1:22.5 | Yeah. |
| 1:22.9 | We might have Jeff June on the show. |
| 1:25.0 | Yeah. |
| 1:26.5 | Jeff July, no. It's still alliterative, but I don't like it. I don't know why. I almost stated a girl named Maisie. Mm-hmm. She went by May. Maze May? Oh, my God. And then she quickly pumped breaks. Yeah, no, yeah, you can't get in, you can't get too serious with that one. I was like, but come on. |
| 1:44.6 | Uh-huh. |
| 1:45.2 | It's just like, this is, it's just not going to work. |
| 1:46.6 | It's not going to work. |
| 1:47.4 | There's one, one reason for that. |
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