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Hi, this conversation includes graphic descriptions of sexual abuse that may be triggering to some

listeners. Please take care while listening.

Hi, I'm Amy Zering, one of the co-series creators and the co-directors of Alan V. Farrow,

and I'm so glad to be back talking with co-director and co-series creators and the co-directors of Alan V. Farrow. And I'm so glad to be back talking

with co-director and co-series creator Kirby Dick and our co-creator and lead producer Amy Hurdy.

So in this podcast, the three of us are going to start off talking a bit about Amy Hurdy's

tour-de-force investigative work in episode three. We're also going to be playing for you two new

clips from Woody and Mia's taped phone conversations, and speaking a bit about how we actually

came into possession of those tapes. We're also going to be playing a small excerpt from the

videotape of Dylan when she was just seven years old, describing to her mother what had

happened to her. And I just want to flag that it's a very,

very intense excerpt. So I want to underline that trigger warning at the start. You're also

going to be hearing a new clip from the interview that we did with Maureen Orth. And you might

remember Maureen as the Vanity Fair reporter we interviewed on our series, who back then was one of the

few voices asking the hard questions other people weren't. And we're also going to hear another

clip from our interview with Rosanna Scotto, who at that time was a very popular local TV

news reporter. Lastly, towards the end of the podcast, Amy and I are going to be reaching out and

speaking with Dr. Anna Salter. Anna is an American psychologist, and she's an internationally renowned expert on predators

and predatory behavior.

She's the author of several books and a teaching fellow at both Tufts and Harvard.

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