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Oh my goodness, Sophie.

I have some shocking news for you, some information that's just come in through the wire.

Are you ready?

Are you sitting down?

Are you prepared to take in some information that may hurt you?

You can see me and I'm sitting.

It's simply behind the bastard, Sophie, the podcast that we do for a living every week. That's what we're doing this week. Are you able to handle this? Are you in an emotional state where you're prepared? Yeah, I live for it. You live for it. Well, we all live, we live because of it. We pay our bills because of it. It's true. It's 100% true. Which is different from living for something. But you know what I live for, Sophie? Do tell.

Introducing the guest to this podcast and nothing else. So every moment before and after this has just been just been an unbroken string of pain.

Yeah. Just just endless and ceaseless. But for this one moment where I introduced our guest for today,

Dana Schwartz, host of hoax and the Noble Blood podcast. For that one moment, I feel bliss. Oh, my goodness.

And you were so good at it. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome to

the show. How are you doing today? Thank you so much for having me. You were, that was an excellent introduction. I know. Back to pain. Nothing but pain from here on now. Before we get to the pain, do you want to tell the good folks about your new show hoax? Exclamation point. Exclamation point. That's load bearing.

It is a load bearing exclamation point, and if you don't include it, that is not canonically the name of the podcast. And let's be fair, if you're a good writer, every exclamation point you use is load bearing. You know, I was really taught that. No unnecessary exclamation points. I'm not throwing them around willy-nilly unless they're in an email with someone that I want to like me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. Of course. Or a text and you're drunk. Yeah, I do that a lot. Just exclamation points. Hoax is a new show that I'm doing with my good friend Lizzie Logan, who's a comedy writer. I come from a history background, and every other week we swap off bringing each other stories of exciting, unbelievable,

fantastic, strange hoaxes throughout history. My hoaxes are more of the historical bent.

Lizzie's are slightly modern. I talked about in our first episode, theottingley Fairies, which were two young girls took pictures of what they said were fairies that convinced Sir Arthur Conan Doyle in our next episode. Oh, yeah, I love that story. Yeah. It's nuts, right? He was so easy to trick, too. People were so much easier to trick back then. You think the guy who wrote Sherlock Holmes would have had like a little bit more deductive reasoning skills, but no. No, absolutely not. Look, that's the problem with writing a super genius character is the writer is never as smart as the character. That's the thing. And he probably thought he was a genius. And, and, and, but my friend Lizzie also loves hoaxes like balloon boy, more modern hoaxes.

And we just get into these conversations about why we believe things that aren't true,

which feels unfortunately very pertinent these days.

So listen to hoax.

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Exclamation point.

Thank you.

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