If you can remember back to the very beginning, it was actually not so hard to get your first

glimpse of success. But then the more time goes on, the harder it seems to get to that

next level. And so we start adopting, well, this worked for this person or I heard this thing

works. And what's happening underneath the surface is we're learning to

listen externally much more than we're listening internally.

Hey, my friend, welcome to the art of online business podcast. My name is Rick Mulready and I'm an

online business coach. I'm an ads expert and most

importantly, I'm a dad. And this show is where we help established online course creators and

coaches create more profit, more impact, with less hustle. All right, let's get into it.

All right. Welcome back to into it. All right.

Welcome back to the show, my friends.

Rick Mulready here.

And today, so pumped to bring you part two of my interview with Kim Wensel.

So if you've not yet heard part one, definitely go back and listen to part one first.

It's going to make today's episode is going to make way more sense if you've listened to last

weeks part one.

So again, if you haven't listened to that yet, it's just last week's episode with Kim Wensel.

It is called How to Focus on What Makes You Happy in your business and still make money in the process.

And again, today is part two of that discussion.

And I broke it up into two parts because there is just so much greatness in my conversation with Kim.

So today, we're going to have a discussion around doing things

in your business because you really want to do them or are you doing them because you think

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