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Scratch & Win

Part 9: Hearts and Minds

Scratch & Win

GBH News

History

51.5K Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2023

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

It’s been fifty years since the Big Dig was first conceived, thirty years since construction began, more than a dozen years since it was completed – and the final twist is: the project has largely delivered on its promises. How do we reconcile that reality with the scandal and outrage we’ve heard so much about?

Credits:

Host and scriptwriter: Ian Coss

Executive Producer: Devin Maverick Robins

Producers: Isabel Hibbard and Ian Coss

Editor: Lacy Roberts

Editorial Advisor: Stephanie Leydon

Fact Checker: Lisa Wardle

Scoring and Music Supervision: Ian Coss

Project Manager: Meiqian He

Transcript

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0:00.0

Support for the Big Dig comes from Cure Alzheimer's Fund, which supports foundational scientific research

0:07.0

into the causes of Alzheimer's disease, because research is the only path to a cure.

0:13.7

Learn more at cure ALZ.org. It's July of 2023, the hottest month humans have ever recorded on planet Earth.

0:37.0

But at 8 a.m. the heat is still more or less tolerable.

0:42.0

How's it going? So that is when I meet up with Fred Salvucci one last time.

0:46.7

You want to take a little walk? And he takes me on a tour of the project he set in motion, tearing down the elevated central artery

0:56.6

and restoring downtown Boston.

1:00.7

This horrible garage, who was trying to block putting the central artery on the ground

1:06.7

because he was afraid for Salveucci this whole area is dense with memories of long ago battles and small victories.

1:14.7

We figured out a different way to do it,

1:16.8

but they're doing their best to mess it up.

1:19.8

I try to imagine what it must be like

1:22.1

to walk these blocks and know them like they were a giant

1:25.8

chessboard on which you'd spent the better part of 20 years arranging and rearranging the same pieces seeking that one path forward.

1:36.0

You went to lunch in the North End.

1:38.0

Is this your walk?

1:39.0

Yeah, this was my walk except I'd have to divert over the Salem Street because Hanover was blocked.

1:44.8

We traced the walk he used to take under the elevated structure.

1:49.1

Back when a lunch of macaroni and beans cost half a buck.

1:53.4

We pass Vanuul Hall, where activists from Eastie fiercely debated the fate of the harbor tunnel.

2:00.0

Savucci even points out the spot where he proposed to his wife,

2:04.4

oddly enough underneath an off-ramp for the old artery.

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