He was devoted to just putting the pieces back together again.

Would that have required the collectivism that they were dedicating to?

No, no, no.

These policies or the foundations are legions to these un-American concepts, all traceable

to the transfer of the funds over into the hands of trustees, Mr. Grapman, that not

the man who had a hand in the creation of the wealth that led to the endowment or as

a use of that wealth for what we would call public purposes.

It was a subversion of the original intent then.

Oh yeah, completely so.

And that we got into the world, traditionally, of bankers and lawyers.

How do you see that the purpose and direction of the major foundations has changed over the

years to the present?

What is it today?

A whole hundred percent behind meeting the cost of education, such as it is.

Presented through the schools and colleges of the United States on the subject of our history

has proven our original ideas to be no longer practical.

The future belongs to a collectivistic concept.

And there's no disagreement on this.

How do the foundations generously support communist causes in the United States?

Well, because to them, what communism represents a means of developing what we call a monopoly.

As the organization will say of large scale industry into an administrative unit.

Because they think that they will be the beneficiaries of it, yes.

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