it covers their suffering, so they won't suffer.

They won't want.

The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want.

And so by wanting, they obviously are not shepherded.

And we are a society of wanting.

So one of the benefits of having a faith, and some would suggest certainly dostayevsky did that

that if people didn't if god didn't exist humans would have created god for that purpose to

to try to give them meaning in some way. That's right.

And, you know, it's impossible to find meaning in a society that worships money and power.

There is no meaning in money and there's no meaning in power over.

There's just quantity, but no meaning.

And so it makes sense that people, the body of 20th century literature around the world is

about loneliness and loss of meaning and in a in a century of this loss of meaning

it makes sense that that people would be vulnerable to almost any kind of empowerment.

But I don't think it's, if the consequences of that empowerment are what a spiritual path is,

which as far as I'm certain, there's only one spiritual path, and that is service,

to help nature and others, to spend love outwardly and that's to me as a spiritual life

and that's why i say that very maybe many people are religious but not very many are spiritual

all right we're getting pretty deep pretty fast um take me back i guess take me back sure tell me

about your life uh everybody's seen the movie patch adams right or most born in nineteen forty five

a weekend furlough of my father who was a professional soldier in the European theater and then

I think I saw him again 18 months later and I grew up on army bases overseas my mom was a school

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