I've got a book coming out, which details all of this.

Nice.

And my prison experience.

And, you know, I like to say I'm one of the, you know, remember, this all happened because it's something in 2001 prior to 9-11.

So I'm one of the first victims of the beach state as it started to be uncovered, you know,

13, 14 years later by the Trump administration.

What's the name of the book you got coming out, Joe?

The name of the book is going to be called Freedom Fall, F-A-L, Freedom Fall.

The subtitle will be the price of conscience in a world of universal surveillance.

Yeah, that's something that I personally want to pick up and read because I've had some experience.

You know, you grew up where in New York?

What part of New York?

All five boroughs of New York City.

I was born in Brooklyn.

You're Italian guy, right?

Nacho.

That's Italian.

Yeah, born in Brooklyn, raised in Staten Island prior to the Garisano Bridge going up.

Right.

Went to high school in Manhattan, went to Syverson, went to engineering school at

NYU when it was up in the Bronx, through a mistake with some friends.

I lived in Queens a while, then moved back to Manhattan.

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