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Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

(Part 2) Witness, Pressure, and the Fantasy That Broke Him — Sharay Hayes on the Cost of Telling the Truth

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

iHeartPodcasts and CrimeOnline

True Crime

4.4696 Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Sharay “Punisher” Hayes is a former professional dancer and author who found himself at the center of one of the year’s most high-profile cases — testifying in the civil trial against music mogul Sean “Diddy” Combs. His story goes beyond the headlines, revealing how fantasy, silence, and shame can trap men just as deeply as violence and power can trap women.

Follow Sharay on Instagram: @getpunished
Check out his new book: In Search of FREEZER MEAT — a raw and personal story about male mental health, erectile dysfunction, and the unexpected solution that changed his life.

 

Episode Description:

In Part 2, CSI Sheryl McCollum continues her raw and revealing conversation with Sharay Hayes — a dancer turned courtroom witness in one of the biggest trials of the year.

This time, the focus turns inward. Sharay opens up about the emotional and psychological toll of being pulled into someone else’s fantasy, how he rationalized what he saw, and why the truth didn’t hit until the headlines did.

They also dive into erectile dysfunction, male performance pressure, and the silence around mental health that keeps so many men trapped. Sharay’s story may have started in the club — but it ends in court, with real consequences and a long road toward healing.

 

Show Notes: 

  • (0:00) The money, the setup, and a moment that still raises questions — a man in a hijab enters the room
  • (2:00) Sheryl asks the big question: Did Sharay ever suspect Combs was abusive?
  • (4:00) “ I always thought it was something for her ” — Sharay explains how he rationalized it all in real time
  • (5:00) Domestic violence, denial, and realizing that what you see isn’t always what’s happening
  • (6:30) What Sharay would say to Cassie — and how hindsight shapes what he sees now
  • (9:00) Sheryl shifts focus to his book — and why In Search of FREEZER MEAT made her nervous to Google
  • (10:00) What ED taught Sharay about pressure, shame, and being a man in a fantasy job
  • (12:30) A 14-year-old, a school rumor, and the first wave of anxiety
  • (14:00) How performance anxiety quietly wrecks confidence, connection, and self-worth
  • (16:00) Sheryl shares a Vegas story — and why pressure hits differently face-to-face
  • (17:00) Testifying in court — the nerves, the backlash, and how Sharay stayed honest with no horse in the race
  • (21:00) Why his book’s helping more than readers — and what men are telling him
  • (22:30) Sheryl closes the episode with a quote from Sean Combs himself: “You have to be somewhat crazy if you wanna be successful.”



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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award-winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnline, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook Cold Case: Pathways to Justice and the founder/director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute — a collaboration between universities and the criminal justice community that advances techniques for solving unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:08.7

Y'all, you watch the trial.

0:12.6

Sean Combs.

0:14.2

So in your 30 years, this is the first time a man has ever come into the room.

0:19.0

Yeah.

0:19.5

At that point, absolutely. And he's, yeah, and he's

0:23.1

naked wearing a woman's religious covering. Yes, and self-pleasureing at the same time.

0:32.5

Well, I know you made a ton of money. I know normally you're saying you may make $200 for the entire party.

0:39.9

I know you made four times that in a few hours.

0:44.5

So I guess part of me too, I'm just like, you know, you made a ton of money for just a couple of hours.

0:54.0

Well, listen, I have to adjust that. It was four times a new. a ton of money for just a couple of hours.

0:56.6

Well, listen, I have to adjust that.

0:58.6

It was four times initially.

1:01.5

Then when it was over, I got an additional $1,200.

1:02.7

So it was 10 times.

1:04.1

It was $2,000.

1:06.2

$2,000 by the end of everything.

1:09.1

Shiree, I just got to talk real for you for a minute.

1:18.6

For that amount of money, you better have a vacuum cleaner in one hand and a margarita machine in the other.

1:30.3

Now, listen, I've seen you so you can keep your shirt off. That'll be fine. But that is so much money. Listen, to each his own, I love it. I mean, what adults want to do in their bedroom, I'm all about it, if it is consensual.

1:46.1

But here is my next question.

1:49.2

You have seen the video where he beat her up.

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