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Part 2 - Trent Horn Refuted on Papalism: A Response to Trent's Rebuttal - Jay Dyer

Jay'sAnalysis

Jay Dyer

Arts, Education, Comedy, Performing Arts

4.6823 Ratings

🗓️ 11 July 2022

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

Trent Horn did a reply to one of my brief videos covering the 10 reasons Im not Roman Catholic. Many ignorant Roman Catholics, duped as usual by simplistic answers, hand-waving dismissals and 'muh keyz' appeals felt this was an adequate reply to my rundown video. However, many of the cut and paste arguments from Horn were already dealt with in many of my videos, as well as Ubi's videos. I have not seen the entire video, only sections sent to me that Ubi had already done, so today we will give a lengthy reply since YT's algorithm is promoting Trent's video.

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the author of Unum Sanctum. It is also evident that the jurisdiction of the spiritual power over the secular

0:05.8

has, for its basis, the concept of the church as guardian of the Christian law of morals. Hence, her

0:12.8

jurisdiction extends as far as this law is concerned. Consequently, when King Philip protested,

0:18.6

Clement V, was able, in his brief Mayru of February 1, 1306,

0:23.6

to declare that the French king in France were to suffer no disadvantage on account of the bull, Unum Sanctum,

0:30.6

and that the issuing of this bull had not made them subject to the authority of the Roman Church in any other manner than formerly.

0:38.8

In this way, Pope Clement V was able to give France and its ruler a guarantee of security

0:44.0

from the ecclesiastico political results of the opinions elaborated in the bull,

0:49.3

while its dogmatic decision suffered no detriment of any kind.

0:56.6

So basically, what Unum Sanctum said was that the secular order should take cues from the spiritual order. It says to be saved, you have to be

1:03.8

submitted to the Roman pontiff and also to the temporal authority and power the Roman pontiff.

1:09.7

So he didn't even read what Unum

1:11.5

Sanctum actually says. By the way, he didn't read what Francis actually says about the death

1:15.4

noise. So all of this is is basically Trent Spin. There's no actual sourcing of documents,

1:22.6

but who cares what the Clement, the Fifth thinks about the bull. That's not the point. The point is the

1:29.0

papal documents and what they say because they're binding. Not what Clement thinks. Who cares

1:35.8

what he thinks? And who cares that he's making the argument that, well, it was already kind of

1:41.8

believed anyway prior to the bull being stated.

1:46.2

Okay, but the bull actually says it is necessary for the salvation of every creature,

1:53.1

not only to be subject to the Roman pontiff in matters spiritual, but also in matters temporal.

1:59.3

That is the papacy violating the ancient canons,

2:02.5

setting itself up as a state power and authority.

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