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Jay'sAnalysis

Part 2 - Trent Horn, Matt Fradd, TAG & The One & Many, Borgias, Energies & Created Grace - Jay Dyer

Jay'sAnalysis

Jay Dyer

Arts, Education, Comedy, Performing Arts

4.6823 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2022

⏱️ 95 minutes

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Open Forum! Time to discuss Triad, Logos, philosophy, logic & logoi, typology, atheism, and whatever your arguments and objections are! Today's questions focused on one and many, Logos and energies, the Triad and uncreated grace, the papacy and Trent horn, matt fradd and more!

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0:00.0

That's right. St. Gregory says that.

0:04.1

So one of my, one of the things that made me very uncomfortable with the, I guess, the monadistic conception of God that I came to realize was very much a part of, like, a lot of Roman Catholic's conception. Like, I don't think in practice a lot of Roman Catholics, like, a lot of Roman Catholics conception.

0:21.9

Like, I don't think in practice a lot of Roman Catholics relate to God that way.

0:28.3

No, it's the theology.

0:29.8

It's the dogma.

0:31.3

It's, yeah, but, like, theoretically, when I realized that that was, like, how the theology expresses it, one of the things that I realized that that was like how the theology expresses it

0:37.9

one of the things that

0:38.8

I realized was that

0:41.5

like that completely obliterates

0:43.5

the possibility of human freedom on any level

0:47.7

yeah it does a lot of things

0:48.9

yeah it also obliterates the

0:51.2

it also obliterates the incarnation

0:53.0

because you need a theology that gives proper place to distinctions such that one of the hypostasis can enter into a mode of being that the other two do not.

1:03.1

I make this argument all the time and right.

1:05.2

It's like the it's like Roman Catholics think you can do all this theology without even referencing the incarnation.

1:10.1

How silly is this? I mean the incarnation is the presupposition of all this theology without even referencing the incarnation. How silly is this?

1:11.2

The incarnation is the presupposition of all the theology, period, for Christians.

1:16.5

So how are you going to have an incarnation of an absolutely simple unmoved mover essence?

1:22.7

That's no, that's not how it works. The second person of the godhead is the incarnate logos.

1:29.6

Thus, we need a theology of mode

1:31.9

whereby we can have a person of the Trinity

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