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Parsing Immigration Policy: The Future of Borders and Nationhood

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News, Politics

4.4651 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

This week on Parsing Immigration Policy, Simon Hankinson, Senior Research Fellow at The Heritage Foundation, discusses his new book, The Ten Woke Commandments You Must Not Obey. Two of the book’s chapters focus on immigration: “You Shall Have No Borders” and “You Shall Have No Nation.” In the episode, Hankinson explains why the idea of the […]

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0:00.0

We simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States, undetected, undocumented, unchecked,

0:10.0

and complete the dang fence.

0:13.0

This bill that we will sign today is not a revolutionary bill.

0:18.0

Can't stone your bucket where you are. We come from France.

0:21.6

And I am, you know, adamantly against illegal immigrants.

0:25.6

They're coming in by the thousands.

0:27.6

Just unbelievable.

0:28.6

A wall is an immorality.

0:30.6

Who are you rooting for it?

0:32.6

Those masters of the universe are added again.

0:36.6

They're not sending their best.

0:40.0

You're a maniac.

0:42.4

You blow it up.

0:45.9

Welcome to parsing immigration policy, the podcast of the Center for Immigration Studies.

0:50.6

My name is Mark Crickory, an executive director of the center.

0:56.4

And today we have a book author in studio who's written a book which is not entirely about immigration, but is partly about

1:02.8

immigration. And I thought it would be good to have them come in and talk about some of these

1:08.0

issues. The author is Simon Hankinson, who is a scholar at the Heritage

1:13.3

Foundation, a retired Foreign Service Officer. And the book is The Ten Woke Commandments You Must Not Obey.

1:23.4

So as you can tell, it's not just an immigration book, and there are parts of it that, you know, that sort of aren't in our bailiwick, but two of the chapters are specifically about immigration, one on borders and then one on kind of who's legally here, who shouldn't be, what kind of benefits they get.

1:43.2

And so I thought it would really be worth

1:44.6

having Simon come in, especially I wanted to talk about your first chapter, Simon. Thanks for

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