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Parenting Toward Abolition / Maya Schenwar & Kim Wilson

This Is Hell!

This Is Hell!

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5930 Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2025

⏱️ 117 minutes

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Summary

Maya Schenwar returns to This is Hell! Maya will be joined by the co-editor Kim Wilson who are co-editors of the new collection, "We Grow the World Together: Parenting Toward Abolition" from Haymarket Books. Maya is editor in-chief of truthout. Kim is the cofounder, cohost, and producer of Beyond Prisons, a podcast on incarceration and prison abolition. Rotten History from Renaldo Migaldi follows the interview. Check out their new edited volume here: https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2446-we-grow-the-world-together Help keep This Is Hell! completely listener supported and access bonus episodes by subscribing to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thisishell

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0:00.0

The water

0:03.0

The water is with the water

0:04.0

The water

0:06.0

The water This is a power. The making matters!

0:31.6

This This is hell.

0:44.9

And it definitely is today as the printer that we depend upon for me to print out scripts

0:53.5

because we don't still can't afford a computer

0:56.3

in our interview booth which we're going to be changing over the next couple of weeks

1:00.5

our printer died so um I we got another thing to go and replace now oh good Lord

1:09.9

please help us.

1:12.0

Yes, it is.

1:17.6

So please keep your support coming at patreon.com slash this is hell.

1:22.5

Live from the United States, where the law is far too often the crime.

1:25.8

This is hell.

1:30.8

And we are continuing our conversations on the law, as in law enforcement, the police,

1:35.6

as well as the entire criminal justice system, including the prison industrial complex,

1:42.1

and all carcerality, which is grounded in cruelty and violence that goes far beyond the prison walls themselves. While the focus is on punishing the

1:46.2

guilty individual for the crime, that punishment has felt far beyond the prisoner themselves,

1:52.0

causing suffering and pain throughout their family, their friends, and the community. In prison,

1:58.5

more than only the inmate suffers.

2:04.4

The parents of prisoners uniquely suffer.

2:08.3

And as we will discuss today, so can their sisters on the outside who struggle for abolition,

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