For all I know, the best is over and the worst is yet.

Welcome to the New York Times Popcast, your reverse Bow Wow challenge in which you book

commercial but fly private of music music and

criticism I'm your soul. And they love to say they told me so.

I hate to say I told your soul.

They love to say they told me.

Okay, that was told you so by Paramore,

the most important rock band of the 2000s, question mark.

Joe Oscar Ali, pop music reporter in the New York Times, what do you think?

Yes.

Yeah, I feel like a strong case.

There's a case to be made.

Certainly top three could be top one,

depending how you look at it.

But that said, Paramore is back, first album in four years

with an album called After Laughter. Oh, I didn't even get that. Yeah, it's nice. It rolls off.

There you go. So they got jokes too. Paramore's back and yet not with a rock record.

It's no destruction. I don't want to like weep openly too much about that as someone that's like not that keen on mainstream rock but as someone who's keen on

Paramore it's unusual turn of events you thought we were getting some

distorted riffing and then it just never came.

And also some neck vein bulging yelpsinging.

Yeah.

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