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Pankaj Mishra on "The World After Gaza" & the "Reactionary International" from Trump to Modi

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Extended conversation with the award-winning Indian writer Pankaj Mishra, author of the new book, The World After Gaza: A History.

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0:00.0

This is Democracy Now.

0:05.0

Democracy Now.org, the War and Peace Report.

0:08.0

I'm Amy Goodman with Narmine Sheikh.

0:10.0

We're joined now for part two of our interview with Bunkaj Mishra,

0:13.0

award-winning Indian author and essayist, whose new book titled The World After Gaza, A History, is Just Out.

0:20.0

His previous nonfiction books include Age of Anger, a History of the Present, and from

0:25.8

the ruins of empire, the intellectuals who remade Asia.

0:29.9

He's also the author of two novels.

0:31.9

He writes regularly for The Guardian and the New York Review of Books, among other publications.

0:36.3

He joins us now from London.

0:39.1

Tancash, I wanted to start by talking about the latest news here in the United States.

0:44.2

Prime Minister Narendra Modi is meeting with President Trump today.

0:48.0

Modi, though, arrived last night, and his first meeting was with the new director of

0:53.9

national intelligence who had just been sworn in, Tulsi Gabbard, who is Hindu American.

1:01.1

She is extremely supportive of Modi's brand of Hindu nationalism, which she called a way of expressing pride in one's religion.

1:10.5

She has very close ties to the Hindu nationalist paramilitary, who is a part of the RSS,

1:17.5

the RSS spokesperson, Ramadav, attended her wedding.

1:22.6

Can you talk about the significance of her ties to the RSS and for a global audience what the RSS is, and then

1:31.6

what Modi and Trump are trying to accomplish today and that Indian-U.S. relationship?

1:40.0

Well, you know, I think the RSS very simply is described as a paramilitary outfit.

1:48.4

It's the sort of mother organization for the party that rules India today.

1:54.4

Narendra Modi, the Indian Prime Minister, was a member, is a member of the RSS and of course the leader of the BJP.

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