Panel: Why We Need New Discourses | Boghossian, Doyle, Lindsay, Nayna, O'Fallon, Pluckrose

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🗓️ 21 December 2024

⏱️ 63 minutes

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In the Panel: Why We Need New Discourses, held on October 13, 2019, in London, panelists Peter Boghossian, Andrew Doyle, James Lindsay, Helen Pluckrose, and Mike Nayna, moderated by Michael O'Fallon, came together to critique the influence of social justice ideology on academia and public discourse. Each speaker addressed the effects of ideological capture, particularly in social institutions and education, arguing that social justice’s rigid worldview distorts reality and suppresses open conversation. Lindsay and the panel discussed how critical theory has infiltrated educational and social systems, creating an environment where questioning or debating its assumptions can be socially and professionally costly. Boghossian highlighted the importance of engaging others in genuine dialogue rather than retreating into polarized camps, despite the reputational risks involved. O’Fallon noted that "New Discourses" should reclaim the principles of classical liberalism, where diverse viewpoints are encouraged and respected, offering a much-needed alternative to the current divisive climate. Throughout the discussion, the panel stressed that fostering open, honest dialogue across ideological divides is crucial. They called for a renewed commitment to evidence-based, compassionate conversation, empowering individuals to resist ideological conformity and to support a society that values free inquiry over dogma. Viewers will find this panel interesting not just for its contents but also for the glimpse back in time by five years, which allows them to see how the views expressed have matured and developed over the intervening time. New book! The Queering of the American Child: https://queeringbook.com/ Support New Discourses: https://newdiscourses.com/support Follow New Discourses on other platforms: https://newdiscourses.com/subscribe Follow James Lindsay: https://linktr.ee/conceptualjames © 2024 New Discourses. All rights reserved. #NewDiscourses #JamesLindsay

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0:00.0	Is this the point, or are we past the point now where this is all becoming satire?
0:13.0	And if we are engaging in satire, how much as well should we be concerned about reaching
0:20.0	these folks empathetically and trying to win
0:23.2	them to our side? Yeah, I think the danger of satirizing, like I was trying to say in the speech,
0:29.1	that actually a lot of the social justice movement are quite are good people and well-intentioned people.
0:35.9	And of course, comedy also always has an element of cruelty about it,
0:39.3	you know, because you're mocking people.
0:41.3	And so obviously in a sense, that can put people's backs up.
0:43.3	But what I hope, what I really hope is that what it does achieve is that it allows them to see
0:49.3	the way in which others perceive them, the way in which the majority of people perceive their excesses.
0:56.9	And I think that's quite a positive thing to do.
1:00.0	And I'm hoping that that will... But like you say, there are absurdities within the social justice movement that are almost beyond satire.
1:05.7	They're too close to the reality.
1:09.0	And in that respect, on the one hand, you can say that makes it easy to satirize,
1:12.3	because sometimes what I'll do as Titania is just literally re-echo something they've said.
1:17.0	There was one tweet by Rosanna Arquette,
1:19.0	where she was talking about how ashamed she was of being white
1:21.9	and how she hates herself for it.
1:24.2	And I literally cut and paste that and put it out as Titania.
1:27.4	And a lot of people didn't notice. So you can just literally replicate it. And I literally cut and paste that and put it out as Titania. And a lot of people
1:28.2	didn't notice. So you can just literally replicate what they do. But what I tend to like to do
1:36.5	is exaggerate it just enough. So some people still think it's real and everyone else knows that
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