This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm John Bachelor catching up with

Michael Yahn at Michael Underline Yahn. When last we spoke to Michael he was in

Panama at the southern border of Panama at the Darien Gap near a camp known as San

Vicente, a large camp, a transition camp from the jungles of Panama, from the bus ride from Quito through

Columbia, from where you depart from overseas China or West Africa or in many instances just

Venezuela. Michael a very good day to you the mystery at San Vicente is the fire that happened many weeks ago at a

fire that struck the part of the camp that was the offices the supervision of the Panamanian border guards.

And we didn't get resolved who set the fire, why the fire was set, what about the 40 or so migrants who were

detained by the Panamanian authorities? What about the records that might have been destroyed in the fire?

Since then, you tell me the camp has been closed.

What do we know about the fire?

Anything in addition, good day to you, Michael. Good day. One thing that we know about it is that first of all we had brought a lot of press to that facility over the months or over the years actually but especially in the last

in the in the couple of weeks just proceeding that fire there had been a lot of

press on on that San Vicente camp which we've started to call the the chick camp that the Chinese

C-B-L-A-A-C-A-I-C because that's exactly what it is.

And one of the things, one of the groups

that we had been calling attention to is highest, highest

dot org.

And we had specifically, you know, through time,

I've been bringing a lot of attention to IOM, you know, the

International Organization for Migration, it's a UN branch and we had been bringing a lot

attention to Catholic Charities and the Lutherans and others, but I started

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