This is the Friends of History Debating Society.

I'm John Bats.

So it's a pleasure to welcome once again Michael Jan of Michael Jan slash locals.com for his

reporting.

Michael is in Panama having spent these last days since we talked, traveling to and from

the Darian gap, learning what has changed since he was last there in 22 and 21.

When Michael and his colleagues first encountered the flow from the global south through Columbia

across in Panama and through the 60 mile triple canopy jungle of the Darian gap.

Michael, a very good day to you.

Thank you for joining.

You've been to the gap now.

The last time we talked, you said you had seen the predicate for the gap exchanging

the way it received people from migrants from the south.

You need to do with the Department of Homeland Defense, a Homeland Security and a decision

by the Panama government, by the U.S. government.

What has changed at the gap?

Good day to you Michael.

Good day from Panama.

I'm actually outside of the Darian gap now.

I'm in a place called El Valle.

Actually, I'm at the home of the famous workhorse bomb Chuck Holton.

We were just down on Darian gap together.

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