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Pamela Paul is the author of 100 Things We've lost to the internet. She's also the editor of the

New York Times Book Review and oversees all books coverage at the New York Times, which she joined in

2011 as the children's books editor. She's also the host of the weekly book review

podcast for The Times. She is the author and editor of six books, How to Raise a Reader

with Maria Russo, My Life with Bob, flawed heroine keeps book of books, plot ensues, the starter

marriage and the future of matrimony, pornified, parenting, ink, and by the book,

writers on literature and the literary life.

Her work has appeared in the New York Times, the New York Times Magazine, The Washington Post,

The Atlantic, and Vogue.

She is a former contributor to Time and former correspondent for The Economist,

and has been a columnist for the style section of the Times, Worth Magazine, and The Economist.

Rectangle Time, a picture book for children, was published in February 2021 by Philomel Pengun Books

for Young Readers. Her next book for adults is 100 Things We've Lost at the Internet, which

came out in fall of 2021, in which we just discussed in this episode. So please enjoy. Welcome, Pamela. Thanks so much for coming on moms don't have time to read books to discuss 100 things we've lost to the internet. It's a pleasure to be back. Thank you for having me. It's sort of ironic that we're on the internet as we're having this conversation. I feel like we should have just for old times sake, you should have been here in person. I know. I mean, everything. Everything I say and do is ironic with this book, like Instagramming about it, like tweeting about it. Like every time I post something about it, I use an exclamation point and an emoticon, both of which, you know, some have cemented the death of the period, which is one of the things we've lost to the internet. I actually thought about that one probably the most because I had this conversation recently with my daughter where I asked her to like text something to someone because I was driving. And I, and then she glint, she showed it to me quickly. And I was like, no, you forgot the period. And she was like, I don't use periods. And I was like, what, of course you do. And she's like, no, you're not supposed to. And I was like, yes, you are.

And then I open up your book. And I was like, oh. It's really crazy. I mean, everything that we learned in strunken white is not true online. It's still true in what I think of as like book writing and real writing.

I mean, I love a good

deployed exclamation point in a novel. It can be so effective. But in a tweet or in an

email or slack to someone, you need at least seven exclamation points. It's, it's, it really is the opposite.

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