Palliative Care and Our Relationship with Mortality with Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider
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4.4 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 24 January 2022
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
Internal Medicine Physician, founder of End Well, and host of the Ted Health podcast Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider joins your hosts to discuss palliative care and changing the conversation around death in healthcare. She talks about how she decided to take on more as it relates to palliative care, and shares one of many stories that informed how she spoke and thought about end-of-life care. She discusses the stigma around talking about death and dying, and the negative effects of dismissing these conversations in our society. They discuss how the pandemic has changed people’s relationship with death, and the systemic issues evident in our healthcare system today. Shoshana speaks to the distress in medicine that comes from families disagreeing with patient's desires, and her goals with the End Well project, including the need for more people to be part of the conversation.
To get more from Dr. Shoshana Ungerleider, you can follow her on Instagram @shoshanamd. Plus, be sure to check out endwellproject.org and the Ted Health podcast wherever you listen.
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| 0:00.0 | This podcast is brought to you by Podcast Nation. |
| 0:11.3 | All right, y'all, welcome back to the WOMED. |
| 0:14.3 | Happy Monday. |
| 0:15.6 | If you're listening on a Monday, that is. |
| 0:18.2 | This week, we have Dr. Shoshana Uncle Leiter on. She is a practicing |
| 0:22.8 | internal medicine physician in San Francisco. And she also founded the coolest nonprofit, |
| 0:30.1 | especially if you're really interested in palliative care, called Endwell. And she's also |
| 0:36.8 | the host of the TED Health podcast, which is very cool. You know what, |
| 0:42.3 | Jack, I don't know if you know this about me, but one of my goals in life, bucket list item, |
| 0:47.6 | I would really like to give a TED Talk. Oh, what's it going to be? What would your topic be? |
| 0:52.6 | I haven't decided that yet, but you just, you just want to give one. I just really want to give one. |
| 0:58.7 | Well, Shoshana might be your end, girlfriend. I don't know. Maybe. But Shoshana's literally, Danielle, like, she's the fucking coolest. Yeah. I'm so excited that everyone gets to enjoy this conversation because I'm just completely |
| 1:11.7 | blown away. I think, you know, we're all in the thick of the pandemic again now. We've all, |
| 1:17.0 | whether you've experienced death and dying, you know, we've all experienced it on a personal |
| 1:21.5 | level at work or even now in the media having to watch this pandemic for the last two years. |
| 1:27.4 | This is a conversation |
| 1:28.2 | that everyone can benefit from. |
| 1:30.9 | Yeah. |
| 1:31.4 | Med students, doctors, nursing students, man, nurses are, we're there 12 hours at the bedside |
| 1:38.9 | with these patients. |
| 1:39.7 | We get really attached to these patients. |
| 1:41.4 | A lot of times patient families are coming to us and, you know, |
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