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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Palestinian Pastor: It is Hell on Earth

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Click here for the full interview with Rev. Munther Isaac: https://www.usefulidiotspodcast.com/p/palestinian-pastor-it-is-hell-on?r=je5va&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web For $5 a month, become a Useful Idiot! Get extended interviews, Thursday Throwdowns, and bonus content at www.usefulidiotspodcast.com Watch this week's Thursday Throwdown: Israeli psychotherapist wants 30,000 Palestinians killed https://www.usefulidiotspodcast.com/p/israeli-psychotherapist-wants-30000?r=je5va&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web “When I say it’s Hell on Earth, it is Hell on Earth. I don’t know if there are levels to Hell, but this is horrifying.” After Christmas was canceled in Bethlehem, Reverend Munther Isaac gave a liturgy to his church. He stood in front of a nativity scene in which the baby Jesus lay on a pile of rubble. “If you fail to call this genocide, it is on you,” he said in a biting and now viral speech. “Words of regret won’t suffice. We will not accept your apology after the genocide.” Rev. Isaac recently visited Washington to speak to US senators in an attempt to educate and change their minds on US policy. While some listened, he told us, most wouldn’t speak with him, and the rest who did told him that they planned to help Israel keep the Gaza massacre going. So while Washington ignores him and corporate media continues its propaganda cycle, we spoke with the pastor, who called us from his church in Bethlehem. “Israel is destroying everything,” he said. “Churches, cultural centers, schools, universities. If you get sick right now in Gaza, the chances are that you will not survive.” He explains the frustration with the lack of coverage of Palestinian voices. “If people just walk in our shoes for one day and understand what it means to live under occupation and apartheid, you will understand why people are leaving and why it’s so hard for anybody to build a future here or survive.” But instead of listening to voices on the ground like his, people in the US are overrun with the corporate and government narratives about Christians in Palestine. “Israel’s main point is to say ‘We’re fighting Hamas and Hamas fights Christians, and they’re come to you next in America.’ “The idea is to demonize all Palestinians and promote the narrative that Christians are persecuted in the Middle East and in Palestine. If people really cared, they would listen to us. We will tell you how we’re doing.” Subscribe to hear the full interview with Munther Isaac, where he shares horrifying stories of life in Palestine under siege, what it’s like to live in constant fear that your life could end at any moment, and why he’s tired with calls for peace. “I’m tired of the language of peace and praying for reconciliation because it gives the impression that there are two men fighting. We don’t have two men fighting, we have one man literally stepping on the throat of the other and you lecturing the person who’s on the ground about peace.” Listen to and share our interview with Reverend Munther Isaac. 00:00 Intro 00:56 The Four Food Groups of News 13:18 Rev. Munther Issac interview 16:27 Viral Christmas Liturgy 22:55 US Senators vs Christian Pastor 28:11 Christians in Gaza 31:29 Jerusalem Mayor's racist tirade 37:46 The Lie about Hamas and Christians 44:23 The Bible and the War Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to useful idiots I'm Katie helper.

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I'm Mary Matte. Hey everybody. Reminder our website is

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Usestal idiots podcast. and go there to support the show

0:15.0

and get bonus content.

0:16.0

And this week we have a really tremendous interview

0:18.0

with Reverend Muntar Isak.

0:21.0

He is a Palestinian Christian theologian

0:22.0

Christian theologian and a pastor in Bethlehem and he is the one who gave that very famous sermon recently saying that basically that Christmas in Palestine, the birthplace of Jesus, was canceled

0:36.0

because of the Israeli genocide in Gaza.

0:38.0

So we're going to speak to him about that and a lot more.

0:40.0

Yeah, and he makes really important points about how kind of the existence of Christians in

0:46.2

Palestine debunked the claim that the occupation is just a religious conflict between Muslims and Jews.

0:54.0

Very grateful that he took time to talk to us.

0:56.0

So should we start with the four basic food groups?

0:59.0

Yes, and for Democrats suck, we're going to start with the State Department, which is now responding to calls from Israeli extremists in the government who are openly calling for the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza. They include Itemar Ben Givir, who is the Minister of National

1:16.9

Security, and the finance minister, Bezalel Smotrich, who have basically said that their plan, their goal, is to get all of Palestinians

1:26.3

and Gaza to leave, forced migration.

1:29.4

The State Department claims to not be happy about this, so this is what they say. The US rejects the

1:34.1

inflammatory and irresponsible statements from Israeli ministers Smotrich and

1:38.6

Ben Gaveir. There should be no mass displacement of Palestinians from Gaza.

1:45.0

So, wow.

1:46.0

So now the State Department claims to be against mass expulsion of Palestinians.

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