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Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Palestine voices on Israel's war against Gaza

Useful Idiots with Katie Halper and Aaron Maté

Useful Idiots, LLC

News Commentary, Politics, News

4.64.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 October 2023

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

For $5 a month, become a Useful Idiot! Get extended interviews, Thursday Throwdowns, and chat live with Katie and Aaron in the Absurd Arena at www.usefulidiotspodcast.com Watch this week's Thursday Throwdown: US politicians call for religious war against Palestine https://www.usefulidiotspodcast.com/p/us-politicians-call-for-religious?r=je5va&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web Join the Absurd Arena live chat with Katie and Aaron every Tuesday at 12pm est at https://usefulidiotspodcast.com/chat After Hamas’s attack in Israel on Saturday, the Israeli massacres of Palestinians in Gaza have skyrocketed. This genocidal ethnic cleansing has scarcely been reported by mainstream media at any time in its 50 year history, let alone at a time when western media and politicians openly support a religious war against Palestine. So we’re giving a platform to three Palestinian voices to share their story. We speak with Refaat Alareer, a Palestinian academic currently sheltering 15 children in his Gaza apartment, Yumna Patel, the Palestine news director for Mondoweiss, and Muhammad Shehada, a Palestinian writer from Gaza. Their stories of bombings, murder, cruelty, and lies from the Israeli government and malicious rumors from US media and politicians are difficult to hear, but so important when they’re being silenced everywhere else. “The American public and the general public around the world is being sold a genocide,” they tell us. “We are being convinced through the rhetoric of Israeli politicians, the US president, and US state department spokespeople that Palestinians, specifically Gazans, are not human. They are trying to wipe Gaza off the map.” And while the deaths of Israelis must be covered and mourned, the West’s hypocrisy and double standard on the value of life is clear. “I have never seen the amount of profiles and interviews with the families of victims than I’ve seen of mainstream media interviewing these Israeli families. I have never seen this level of attention paid to one singular Palestinian.” Israeli children matter. Why don’t Palestinian children matter? “No attention is being paid to the killing of 270 children just in the span of three or four days.” Refaat, Yumna, and Muhammad share their frustration and disgust with “the fact that our government and the President of the United States is repeating dehumanizing genocidal language, repeating these unsubstantiated claims.” And sadly, we may not be able to hear their voices for long. Refaat, calling from Gaza with the sounds of bombs exploding in the background during the interview, warns that resources are running low. “But in a couple of days, maximum a week or two, if things don’t change, we’re looking at a total blackout, no coverage, no media, no internet. Not that Israel cares, and mainstream media is complicit.” Hear them speak, and share the interview to spread their message. At a dangerous time, we thank you for continuing to support Useful Idiots and our guests. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Useful Idiots. I'm Katie Halper.

0:08.0

And I'm Mary Matte. Hi everybody. Thanks for joining us. Remember to join us at Useful

0:12.7

Idiots at Substack.com to support the show and get bonus content. And this week Katie

0:18.4

is a special episode. Yes, because we are not doing the four basic food groups and that's

0:24.1

because we have a really great long interview that we're making totally free. We're not

0:30.3

paying well on any of this interview because we think it's really important. It's with

0:33.3

three people and it's about the situation in Gaza. So no for basic food groups but we

0:40.0

will have the Thursday throwdown. Yes, for people who subscribe, you will have the Thursday

0:44.9

throwdown. As always, and that is where we go through the midweek madness of the week.

0:51.0

And this week's Thursday throwdown is going to be about Israel power sign again. Yes, because

0:56.3

we have seen some of the most insane displays of sadism and even open calls for genocide

1:02.2

from US politicians, including Lindsey Graham, who said about Gaza level the place. He literally

1:08.4

said that on national TV. So we're going to be reacting to that and a whole lot more

1:14.0

craziness. And if you missed our Monday morning, you can watch that because we break down some

1:19.1

of the many ways that the US media kind of shares its bias, pro-Israel anti-Palestine

1:26.8

bias wears it on its sleeve. So that's a good guide for people also.

1:31.0

And a quick word about this interview. Just to clarify our position on this, when it comes

1:39.0

to, you know, I think you agree with me, there's no condoning here of any violence against civilians,

1:45.5

Israeli civilians or Palestinian civilians. But to properly understand what happened,

1:51.9

what Hamas did, there needs to be context. And that context is virtually absent from US corporate

1:58.1

media. And so that is our intention with this week's interview to provide context that is usually

2:03.8

missing where Palestinians are reduced to caricatures and all the vital history of apartheid and

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