Palestine Pt. 1: A Socialist Introduction with Sumaya Awad
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🗓️ 20 October 2023
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Summary
Before 1948, the land of Palestine was dotted with olive groves along rolling hills between mountains and the Mediterranean sea. Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, and Christians all lived alongside one another in relative harmony, practicing agriculture and embroidery, or working in factories or along the coast in thriving port villages. Not to romanticize it too much, but in comparison to what was to come, this region was thriving.
If you've been paying any attention to the news lately, you'll know that an image of harmony is no longer the case in this region. In 1948, the state of Israel was founded, and the campaign leading up to, during, and following the founding of this ethno-state threw this region into a turmoil that has produced one of the most subjugated and immiserated populations in the world — a population that has been subjected to ongoing ethnic cleansing and a campaign of genocide aimed at replacing Palestinians and their towns, villages, and cities, with Israeli settlements.
In this episode, we've brought on Sumaya Awad, a Palestinian writer, analyst, and socialist organizer, to talk about this history, drawing a line from the Nakba of 1948 all the way to the present carpet bombing campaign on Gaza. Sumaya is a contributor to and co-editor, along with brian bean, of Palestine: A Socialist Perspective, published by Haymarket Books.In this conversation we explore the history of the political ideology of Zionism, how imperialism and colonialism shaped the state of Israel, the ethnic cleansing campaign known to Palestinians as the Nakba, the global propaganda campaign, led by Israel, aimed at covering up this history, the West's complicity in war crimes and genocide, what a principeled socialist perspective on Palestine looks like, and much more. In fact, there's so much from Palestine: A Socialist Perspective that we didn't get to, that we're going to have Sumaya back on for a part two soon.
Further Resources:
- Palestine: A Socialist Introduction
- Donate to Middle Eastern Children's Alliance (MECA)
- Anera: Provide urgent humanitarian aid to Palestinians
- Write your member of Congress to demand an immediate ceasefire
- Against Canary Mission
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| 0:00.0 | Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, The last 10 days in particular are so important because it actually doesn't matter what you think about 75 years ago right now. |
| 0:29.0 | You don't need to have an opinion formed on how Israel established itself as a state and what |
| 0:35.6 | massacre did or did not happen. You don't need to have an opinion on this to have a |
| 0:39.6 | stance on the fact that a nuclear state that has some of the most sophisticated |
| 0:45.6 | military technology in the world is dropping 6,000 plus bombs over the |
| 0:51.8 | course of the last 10 days, on 2.2 million people who are |
| 0:56.1 | encaged, they cannot leave, they have no supplies, they have no fuel, they have no water, |
| 1:00.6 | they have no electricity. |
| 1:01.7 | Many have said that they might die of dehydration if not from the bombs. |
| 1:06.0 | This collective punishment against 2.2 million people, 50% of them children. |
| 1:11.7 | There's no justification for this no matter what you think |
| 1:14.3 | about Israel's history. This is such clear brutality and the idea that people still |
| 1:19.3 | want to debate. I think it's just it's it's such a harrowing reflection of our humanity or |
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| 1:37.7 | you knew about economics. |
| 1:39.9 | I'm Dela Duncan. |
| 1:41.2 | And I'm Robert Raymond. |
| 1:42.4 | Before 1948, the land of Palestine was dotted |
| 1:46.3 | with olive groves along rolling hills between mountains and the Mediterranean Sea. |
| 1:51.6 | Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims, Jews, and Christians |
| 1:56.0 | all lived alongside one another in relative harmony, |
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