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Big Cahuna, Jeff Bliss is Pacific Watch, Special Report. The news from CNN. Veteran Brazilian

surfer, Marcio Freire, died while practicing toe-insurfing on the giant waves in Nazar

on the central coast of Portugal. Support staff on jet skis managed to get the 47-year-old

to the beach, but all attempts to revive him failed. Freire was one of three Brazilian

surfers who became known as the Mad Dogs. After conquering the giant wave, JAWS in Hawaii,

they featured in the 2016 documentary, Mad Dogs. I welcome Cahuna himself who instructs

me about surfing and these technical terms I'm learning. First, good evening to you, Jeff.

Jet skis tell you to a wave. I didn't know about this before. Why do they do that? Is it

useful? Good evening, John. Yes, it is useful. In some cases, it's the only way to get

up enough speed to be in the wave. These waves are so massive that unless you're right in

front of them in the death zone, so to speak, there's no way you could actually get into

the wave. So you get a jet ski that's toying you at 30 or 40 knots, depending on how

big and how soup-up it is. It pulls you in just like a water ski. These boards are about

seven feet or so long, which is quite a departure from the old thinking that you had to have

a board that was probably 11 or 12 feet long, especially shaped to ride big waves like in

Hawaii that you could paddle. But these are shorter and they're built specifically for

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