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and Warning to Careful Listeners. This is about reptiles and particular snakes and particularly

heavily heavily feared snakes, highly venomous and resourceful. We've talked about the brown snake,

Eastern brown snake. We've talked about the red-bellied black snake. Jeremy now introduces me to

something. I didn't know. I thought I knew everything about the venomous snakes. A red-bellied brown

snake that a man is looking up with it. Why are they always smiling when they hold these

snakes up, Jeremy? The snake looks to be about five feet long and it can jump. Explain that, Jeremy.

Oh, that's right, John. This is an incredible snake. Now, red-bellied black snakes, actually when

they're younger, they have a brown hue. And in this case, it's a red-bellied brown snake. It is what

the snake catcher is holding up. The reason he's so confident in holding it up like that is if you

have a look in the picture, he's doing the typical snake catcher hold, I call it. He's got the snake

by the tail held quite tightly, but he's also got its head restrained with what is... You could effectively

call a metal crook. It's basically a metal latch that kind of holds the snake away from his body.

So he's very happily looking after it there. The reason he's holding it so far from his body is,

as you just mentioned that last part there, these things can bounce. These things can jump.

And if you imagine a spring, John, if you imagine the spring all coiled up in kind of

undetention, snakes do exactly the same thing. And why they do that is it's a protective mechanism

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