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#OZWATCH: GEORGE WASHINGTON, BEN FRANKLIN, ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEVOTED CRICKET FANS. JEREMY ZAKIS, NEW SOUTH WALES. #FRIENDSOFHISTORYDEBATINGSOCIETY

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 21 July 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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#OZWATCH: GEORGE WASHINGTON, BEN FRANKLIN, ABRAHAM LINCOLN DEVOTED CRICKET FANS. JEREMY ZAKIS, NEW SOUTH WALES. #FRIENDSOFHISTORYDEBATINGSOCIETY

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0:00.0

This is the Friends of History Debating Society. I'm John Batchel in North America, where it is

0:06.1

blazing summer. So summery is it, John? I needed to eat a popsicle before I came in to talk to

0:13.2

Jeremy from the garden. That's how hot it is. However, I've recovered from my popsicle, and now I'm

0:19.1

prepared for news about cricket.

0:22.1

A hot contest later this year when Ashes resumes, and this time in Australia.

0:28.8

However, I have discovered three participants will be in the fans,

0:34.1

will be in the stands for the games, for the tests.

0:39.5

They are in order of seniority.

0:48.5

Benjamin Franklin, George Washington, and Abraham Lincoln, huge cricket fans. Jeremy, everybody so far who follows cricket I've talked to, nobody knew this. Nobody, including me, of course,

0:57.9

now maybe Claude is making it up, but there it is. They were big cricket fans. It's logical,

1:03.7

if you think about it, they were Englishmen. I mean, they spent their, well, Lincoln was,

1:08.3

and Lincoln was an American, but still there was no baseball

1:11.5

before the Civil War goes the story because it was invented by Abner Doubleday who was busy

1:18.6

at the Battle of Gettysburg in 1863. But Benjamin Franklin and George Washington, you know,

1:25.6

if that had been marketed correctly, maybe there would have been a peace treaty

1:29.2

as opposed to the Revolutionary War.

1:31.9

Did you know this, Jeremy?

1:34.5

No, honestly, John, I didn't, but when you think about it logically, it now makes perfect

1:38.8

sense.

1:39.3

And I dare say that maybe if cricket had had taken off instead of the ashes between

1:43.4

being between Australia

1:44.9

and England, it could be between Australia and America, which would be a totally different

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