This is the Friends of History Debating Society.

I'm John Batcher, speaking with Jeremy Zackas in New South Wales.

My guide to international, professional, world championship cricket.

And Australia is playing co-terminus with this conversation.

So is England.

They're not playing each other.

I talked to an Englishman today, apparently, that Ashes match.

There's a different opinion in England.

You're not surprised, are you?

No, I didn't think so, yes.

Australia won the match because it was a tie.

And Australia had won the previous match, despite the protest of the English team.

They protested.

There wasn't enough time to drink.

That was the protest.

Tell us you where we are in professional sports.

But right now, the world championship is underway.

And there's been a surprise team.

What is it, Jeremy?

And John, this is honestly one of the biggest surprises.

What's happened is that South Africa, a team that's traditionally about

middle of the road.

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