Please note this episode contains discussion of body image, weight loss, and eating disorders.

So Aubrey, important thing to just sort of like clarify right here at the top yes which is that in this conversation I'm

going to be calling you fat yeah please do I hope that you do yes and I just

want listeners who are familiar with your work to know that that is the term you prefer.

That is my preferred term. We have attached a lot of weird baggage to the term fat. We use it to mean unlovable and

unintelligent and undesirable and unattractive and a whole lot of other unns.

And at the same time that is the size and shape of my body right so I use that in a truly neutral way the same way that I talk about

The length of my hair or my height right like it's just a fact about how I look.

This is the Sportful. It's not for foodies, it's for eaters, I'm Dan Pashman.

Each week on our show, we obsess about food to learn more. For Foodies, it's for Eaters, I'm Dan Pashman.

Each week on our show, we obsess about food

to learn more about people.

Aubrey Gordon is a fat activist and best-selling author

who writes about anti-fat bias

and the physical and emotional realities of being a fat person in the world.

She first wrote about these topics anonymously on her blog You're a Fat Friend.

She expanded on them when she went public with her identity in 2020,

with the release of her first book.

Aubrey's also the co-host of the podcast Maintenance Phase, which explores the history of popular

health and wellness trends and at times debunked the science behind them.

I wanted to talk with Aubrey in part to hear her story and

in part because this is our first episode of the New Year and the most common

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