Owning It: Why labelling yourself as an always anxious person is a bad idea

Owning It: The Anxiety Podcast

Caroline Foran

Overwhelm, Education, Health & Fitness, Panic Attack, Caroline Foran, Stress, Anxiety

4.4 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

For this episode I am joined by Katy Milkman, award winning behavioural scientist and Wharton University Professor to talk about anxiety and more specifically how to change, and how labelling will impact your behaviour in a way that exacerbates your anxiety. Katy is a legend and explains everything so well. Her new book, How To Change is out now. My books are NAKED: Ten Truths To Change Your Life, The Confidence Kit and Owning It: Your BS Free Guide To Living With Anxiety, all widely available online.

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0:00.0	Thank you for listening to owning it. If you would like to support the series, the best thing you can do is just tell a friend or better yet share it on social media. If you really, really want to support, you can subscribe to me on Substack where I write a weekly column. Listeners of the pod get a 20% discount forever at carolinephorun.substack.com. Thank you.
0:28.7	Hello, dear listener, and welcome back to another episode of season six of owning it,
0:33.2	the Anxiety podcast, with me, your host and author Caroline Forin.
0:54.6	For this episode, I am joined by the legendary Katie Milkman, who I think I've quoted a few times in, if not all of my books, definitely two of them. She has certainly been an inspiration on all three. Katie is an award-winning warden professor, a leading behavioral scientist and a regular guest on Freakonomics, which is probably my favorite podcast ever.
0:59.6	Her new book is called How to Change, The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be.
1:02.3	But, I mean, we've heard of so many books like this.
1:04.2	Katie is no fluff talker.
1:08.5	This is hardcore neuroscience and behavioral economics and behavioral science and unpacking why it's so hard to change and how
1:11.1	to actually set about making lasting positive change. So here in this episode we talk about
1:15.4	habits and change when it comes to anxiety in particular. We talk about our conflicting human need
1:19.8	for both stability and change that often butts heads resulting in anxiety and so much more.
1:25.0	We talk also about the power of labelling and how describing yourself
1:28.2	as an anxious person will most definitely impact your behaviour in a way that actually perpetuates
1:33.0	the anxiety. I am a bit of a fan girl you'll probably be able to tell, so forgive me as I as I fawn
1:39.7	over her throughout this episode, but if you go and look into her work to date, you will no doubt
1:43.9	feel the same. So enjoy this episode. It was really and look into her work to date you will no doubt feel the
1:44.3	same so enjoy this episode it was really interesting for me to have this conversation with her
1:48.4	a real book at this moment for me as i'm i'm such a freakonomics fan and yeah thank you as always for
1:55.0	the feedback for the reviews for sharing i appreciate every message even if i don't get time to reply
1:59.9	to everyone.
2:01.7	It means the world.
2:02.9	So thank you so much.
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