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The Brendan O'Neill Show

Owen Matthews: How to end the war in Ukraine

The Brendan O'Neill Show

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News, Society & Culture, Government, Politics

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Owen Matthews – associate editor of the Spectator and author of Overreach: The Inside Story of Putin’s War on Ukraine – is the latest guest on The Brendan O’Neill Show. Owen and Brendan discuss the Alaska and White House peace summits, why Ukraine is running out of options and why Trump is no ‘useful idiot’ for Russia. Order Brendan O’Neill’s After the Pogrom now from: 🇬🇧 📕 Amazon UK:  https://www.amazon.co.uk/After-Pogrom-October-Israel-Civilisation/dp/1068719303/  🇺🇸 📕 Amazon US: https://www.amazon.com/After-Pogrom-October-Israel-Civilisation/dp/1068719303/  Support spiked: https://www.spiked-online.com/support/  Sign up to spiked’s newsletters: https://www.spiked-online.com/newsletters/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:43.1

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0:48.0

heart of the deal, it's actually Putin, not Trump, who really seems to be the current master of

0:52.7

that process. Putin is extremely good at playing Trump.

0:57.0

The best way to save Ukraine's nationhood is to stop the bloody war.

1:03.0

There are people who have said right from the beginning of the war,

1:06.0

Ukraine needs to cut off Dombas, like a gangrenous limb.

1:10.0

Nothing good will ever come from Dombas.

1:12.3

Like, why are we even fighting about?

1:14.0

Just let it go.

1:15.3

Ukraine is still Ukraine without Dombast.

1:17.7

Are we witnessing Europe's betrayal of Ukraine?

1:21.5

Europe is the second largest importer of Russian Guinness, the world after China.

1:27.3

So, you know, please, like, spare me

1:29.5

your hypocrisy and, like, you know, shove your sanctions packages where the sun doesn't shine.

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