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The Politics Guys

Overturned Courts, Market-Based Healthcare, Affirmative Action, Political Correctness, Politicizing Weather

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

Politics, News

4.5772 Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2017

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

This week, Mike and Jay respond to lister questions and comments: if the Ninth Circuit is really the most overturned appellate court (it depends on how you measure), whether we think market-based reforms can lower health care costs (sometimes), if there's ever a case to be made for affirmative action and political correctness (Mike is much more emphatically 'yes' on this than Jay is, as you might expect), whether or not Mike and Jay are wrong for not calling Donald Trump and Jeff Sessions racist (we don't think so), and why 'politicization' is such a dirty word when it comes to weather (Mike says it's not - or at least it shouldn't be, while Jay disagrees). In this episode, Jay recommends SCOTUSBlog (http://bit.ly/2yxjHc2), which Mike also likes and has used for many years. Empirical SCOTUS (http://bit.ly/2yxrmau) is another great site Jay recommends for data on the Supreme Court. We hope you'll consider checking out the sponsors of today's show, who with your help make it possible for us to keep on doing what we do: Brooklinen. Politics Guys listeners get $20 off AND free shipping by using promo code 'tpg' at http://www.Brooklinen.com Bombfell, where Politics Guys listeners get $25 dollars off their first purchase by going to http://www.bombfell.com/tpg ZipRecruiter. Politics Guys listeners can post jobs on ZipRecruiter for FREE. Just go to http://www.ZipRecruiter.com/politicsguy Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. If you’re interested in supporting the show, go to http://www.politicsguys.com and click on the Patreon link.Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/the-politics-guys/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the politics guys. I'm Michael Baranowski, a political scientist at Northern Kentucky University.

0:38.1

So we start this listener mail episode with a comment, I guess it's called it a comment slash correction maybe, about a show we did a while back where we talked about courts being overturned, circuit courts being overturned.

0:42.7

And listener Matt wrote in on our website, Politics Guys.com.

0:47.8

Dear Mike and Jay, I just listened to today's podcast, and it was delightful as always.

0:48.9

That's always nice to hear.

0:49.6

Thank you.

0:51.5

But, yeah, but, exactly.

0:52.4

There's always that, right?

1:12.7

However, during your conversation on the Ninth Circuit Federal Appeals Court, Jay inaccurately said that the court is the most overturned court. This is the same point Sean Hannity made on his show, or at least tried to. According to PolitiFact, it was actually the sixth court of appeals. Just a heads up.

1:19.0

Love the podcast and thanks for what you guys do. Let's make America sane again. So Jay, and I know you had, you had sort of a comment, a reaction to that. So I'll let you start off on that.

1:25.8

Well, we did. And really, it's a good question

1:29.5

because I went back because I always want to make sure that my, my facts are correct. And it turns

1:35.9

out my facts are correct, but it also depends on how you count these things. If you look in terms

1:43.0

of pure numbers of cases accepted for cert and overturned,

1:49.2

or at least just cases overturned, the 9th district is head and shoulders above any other

1:55.8

federal circuit. If you look at proportion, I guess the percentage of overturning of those cases accepted for cert,

2:05.4

then they are about third, second or third, depending on the year you look at.

2:12.0

And this is something that varies from year to year, obviously.

2:20.6

I think the most, if you look, the percentage was the DC circuits. And then there's also the sixth circuit, which is, which is my circuit. And it's one of

2:26.7

those you kind of feel a point of pride that you don't want to be the most overturned. But my point

2:32.9

to that was that if you understand, and I'm going to take an issue

2:38.9

with political fact here, if you understand the way that cases are selected by the Supreme

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