Overdiagnosis with Allen Frances
The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast
The Carlat Psychiatry Podcast
4.7 • 524 Ratings
🗓️ 6 January 2025
⏱️ 17 minutes
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Summary
Allen Frances shares his approach to chronic depression.
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Published On: 01/06/2025
Duration: 16 minutes, 47 seconds
Chris Aiken, Allen Frances, MD, and Kellie Newsome, PMHNP, have disclosed no relevant financial or other interests in any commercial companies pertaining to this educational activity.
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| 0:00.0 | Did nine out of ten college students really develop a psychiatric disorder during COVID lockdown? |
| 0:06.0 | In our final interview with Alan Francis, we try to restore some diagnostic boundaries. |
| 0:14.4 | Welcome to the Carlet Psychiatry Podcast, keeping psychiatry on us since 2003. |
| 0:20.0 | I'm Chris Sagan, the editor-in-chief of the Carlatte Psychiatry Report. |
| 0:23.6 | And I'm Kelly Newsom, a psychiatric MP and a dedicated reader of every issue. |
| 0:31.2 | On a good day, psychiatry follows the laws of science. |
| 0:35.7 | But most of the time, it follows the law of unintended consequences. |
| 0:40.7 | You give Benadryl, and it makes the patient stay wide awake. You give medaphano, and they fall asleep. |
| 0:47.2 | Or, like the time I advised a depressed patient to try smiling more often in social encounters. |
| 0:53.2 | He came back and said that was the worst advice anyone had ever given him. |
| 0:58.3 | When you're as depressed as I am and you try to smile, you just look like a freak. |
| 1:03.8 | It scares people. |
| 1:06.3 | One such unintended consequence happened in the 1990s. |
| 1:10.4 | When the APA launched DSM-4, just as a |
| 1:13.0 | pharmaceutical industry was launching the largest crop of new psychiatric medications this world |
| 1:17.8 | has ever seen. |
| 1:19.7 | Alan Francis helped birth that baby, and he came to regret some of its effects. |
| 1:24.3 | Where people once turned to community, faith, therapy, and poetry, they now turn to a |
| 1:28.8 | clinical manual of mental disorders to understand the problems of everyday life. And there they found |
| 1:33.9 | them, from overeating to social isolation, all with FDA-approved medications to pave over the suffering |
| 1:40.6 | road. The best psychiatrists pivot when the law of unintended consequences strikes, when their |
| 1:47.5 | patient calls with acute dysphoria and agitation after starting an antidepressant, |
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