The older sound tech had this screen on for like maybe 30 seconds and there was no, nothing was moving.

The tech just like went blank. I remember I said I lost the baby didn't I and he's like I need

a call to the doctor. Growing up there's like an idea of what your family is going to be.

So for me it was more than just losing him. It was losing that. There's this team of doctors

around me and there's this one man he was doing my heart test. I remember looking at him while he

was checking my heart and I said am I going to die. I feel like it's not talked about a lot

struggling with infertility after having gotten pregnant and after a loss like that like

pregnant again. There was a lot of emotion. It was like this beautiful joyful thing that was

finally here and it was so difficult. This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. What's up dudes?

And welcome back to the Unplugged Podcast. Matt it is 9 a.m and you have way too much energy.

I drank a coffee this morning so I guess 9 is actually literally not even early. It just feels

feels early. Today we are joined by our friends Mike and Ashley Lemue. Ashley is say yeah let's give

it up. You guys were so excited to be here like this. Chatting with you. Hey we are so happy to

have you guys here with us. Ashley is an author. She's a social media personality. She's also been

very open online and Mike is well about past loss and grief that they have experienced and they've

been very vulnerable about that on their social media so we're super excited to have you guys.

They're more than that. They're friends. Yes. Yes. We're friends. And they convinced us to move to

Arizona. That's right. We're the ones. From Hawaii to the middle of the desert. I'm still really

proud of that. I feel like that's an accomplishment. I still have the list on my notes app of all the

things that we read to you. That's true. I can binge you to choose Arizona. We literally were sitting

there and wrote down everything that we could come up with. I forgot about that because I was asking

us like Mike why should because we were stuck between Utah and Arizona. Yeah. Like why should we

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