Overcoming Hate with Sally Kohn
The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show
Chase Jarvis
4.8 • 641 Ratings
🗓️ 2 May 2018
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
Sally Kohn is the author of the fantastic book, The Opposite of Hate. which explores how we can bridge our differences and speak respectfully with those we passionately disagree with. She has has been published in the New York Times, The Washington Post, and delivered multiple TED Talks on emotional correctness, clickbait, and correcting the culture of hate.
In this episode we go deep into what it means to fight hate. Sally shares how to use our creativity and vulnerability to bridge tough topics. Whether you’re tired of internet trolls or losing friends to political differences, Sally Kohn’s insights helps us find common ground.
A few of my favorite takeaways:
* The act of being vulnerable is a major component of what makes artists powerful. As a creative, you have the opportunity to shift your audience’s views by showing your own vulnerability.
* It’s natural to bond with others around what we dislike and even hate. But hating things together is still backwards movement. How do we move each other forward and be part of the solution? The answer, whether we’re talking about a one on one conversation with a loved one or communicating your world view through your art, is connection. Get outside of your own little bubble and getting to know “the other side”.
* If you want people to change, you have to give them the hope, the reason, the opportunity and the challenge to change. Being hateful, pointing fingers, and telling someone they are wrong has never been an effective way to get anyone to see things your way.
Enjoy!
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| 0:00.0 | I love, b'bom, b'pom, b'pong. |
| 0:07.0 | I love the music. |
| 0:08.0 | I cannot help reference it every time I hear it when I'm recording in your ears here. |
| 0:12.0 | Hey everybody, it's Chase. What's up? Thanks so much for having me in your ears. |
| 0:15.0 | Welcome to another episode of the show. |
| 0:17.0 | This is the Chase Jarvis' live show here on Creative Live, and I am very pumped to be coming at you with another episode, an incredible episode today with the guest, Sally Cohn. |
| 0:27.5 | She is an amazing author of the new book, which is just out called The Opposite of Hate. |
| 0:33.7 | I got to tell you, the first time I saw the title, I was like, wait a minute, why is this, what's the, why negative? What about love? This is an amazing book that helps us all see that connection is the most important thing in our culture today. And it's in part what it means to be human. We do a great job in this conversation of connecting it to art. That's part of the |
| 0:56.4 | reason that you pay attention to me and to us and to Creative Live is the creativity that's inherent |
| 1:00.9 | in all of us. Now, we're not saying we all have to use it for this all the time, but what an |
| 1:05.1 | amazing vehicle that creativity can be for connection. Of course,'s this is an amazing, um, or an amazing |
| 1:13.1 | time in history where there is, there are so many voices and the voices that, uh, are the |
| 1:18.7 | dominant ones in pop culture are sometimes, uh, loud and sometimes things we don't agree |
| 1:24.3 | with. This book does such a good job of helping us bridge the gap with very, very tactical stuff. |
| 1:30.4 | And so Sally's background is originally as a community organizer, secondarily then as a writer |
| 1:37.8 | for The New York Times and The Washington Post and others. |
| 1:41.1 | And she's even been a television commentator where she's been on both CNN and Fox News. I found this amazing. And she has that ability to sort of connect disparate views in a way that I've rarely seen, certainly not in popular culture icons like Sally. So this is an incredible episode where we see the healing and |
| 2:02.9 | connecting power of the creativity that we all have inside us. And I cannot wait for you to get |
| 2:08.7 | into it. So much goodness here. We talk about everything from Brunei Brown, who's been on so many |
| 2:14.7 | episodes of the show, to Tolstoy, pop culture, and we get into some theoretical |
| 2:21.0 | and some very, very tactical things that we can all do to be more awesome humans. |
| 2:25.8 | I love this episode. |
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