Sitting quietly, once you've made the house all shiny,

downtime can be just fine playing bangers from the 90s.

Tea break, lunch break, maybe listen to the outbreak.

Sometimes it's not time for some tambola, right?

It's enjoying lasagna time,

chilling with a book time,

or time to visit your nam time.

Go on, play some other time. Put your phone down.

Tom Bola.

Open for fun.

Terms apply 18 plus, Gamble aware.org You're going to. Hello and welcome to outward

slights podcast for all things LGBT I'm Jules Gil Peterson and you know I gotta say just as

temperatures are finally dipping here in the mid-Atlantic where I live you know finally

getting to be sweeter weather. But it is also that time of year where just every time I turn on the TV or the radio or go online,

basically encounter the same three political ads over and over and over.

And you know, if you're tuning in from any number of places in the United States

maybe you too can relate it does kind of make this fall season you know a little less I don't

know pumpkin spice and otherwise would be be. Of course electoral politics are

relentless but they are not the only form of political action out there and so in this

episode we're actually going to talk with two organizers of a gender liberation march that took place in Washington,

D.C. a few weeks ago. We're sitting down to chat with Raquel Willis and Elie L. Cruz.

And it's a really interesting conversation that reflects not just on, you know, some of the political stakes that are wound up in electoral politics, things like abortion and medical transition that we've talked about in a number of ways on this show before, but it's kind of a more broad-ranging kind of conversation about the challenges of political strategy as such these days.

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