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Outward | Slapping Leather: The Untamed History of the Gay Rodeo

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🗓️ 5 March 2025

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

This week on Outward, host Christina Cauterucci talks to historian Rebecca Scofield about the new book, Slapping Leather: Queer Cowfolx at the Gay Rodeo. From rhinestone-studded chaps to the hard-won battles for inclusion, they explore how queer cowboys and cowgirls carved out space in the rodeo circuit, the gender politics at play in this community, and how the AIDS crisis shaped its trajectory. Plus, they dig into the current resurgence of cowboy aesthetics in queer culture and pop culture at large. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, folks, it's Charles Duhigg, the former host of Slate's advice podcast, How To, and the author of The Power of Habit.

0:07.0

I'm teaming up with Slate again for a mini-series based on my latest book, Super Communicators, How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection.

0:15.2

It's a deep dive into how to have better conversations about the neuroscience behind how we connect with each other and why the right

0:21.9

questions can transform complete strangers into immediate friends.

0:26.4

The very first time I did this was at a conference.

0:30.4

These were all like C-suite executives.

0:32.9

That's the psychologist Nick Epley.

0:34.8

He paired all those execs up and then he told them that they had to

0:37.8

ask and answer a really personal question. When's the last time you cried in front of another

0:43.8

person? And you could sort of feel the whole room just groan. After 10 minutes, everybody was deep

0:51.2

in conversation. I finally get the 20 minutes. A couple of them are hugging each other.

0:56.3

It was kind of magical that moment, actually.

0:59.1

Join me, Charles Duhigg, for super communicators, wherever you get your podcasts.

1:06.4

Hey there.

1:07.5

It's Candace Lem and Kate Lindsay from I-C-Y-M-I.

1:11.3

Slate's podcast about internet culture.

1:13.6

And if you've been bombarded with memes on the timeline surrounding some guy named Montoya,

1:19.8

we just did an episode breaking down who he is, why he's on your feed,

1:23.4

and why he is the greatest meme of the year so far.

1:26.6

To hear more about Montoya Porpovor, you can find our episode by checking out the I-C-YMI podcast wherever you listen.

1:56.2

I'm going to be looking at the I-C-Y-My podcast wherever you listen. Hello and welcome to Outward Slate's LGBTQ podcast.

1:59.8

I'm Christina Kauderucci, a senior writer at Slate.

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