Hello and welcome to Outward, Slate's podcast about the first woman president of the United States, trying desperately to get her bisexual son on prep.

But more on that later. I'm Christina Cotarucci, a senior writer at Slate.

It's great to be back with you guys.

Yes, I am Jules Gil Peterson, and that's Your Royal Highness to all of our listeners.

I am Brian Lauder.

I'm an editor at Slate.

So I was going to say, like, oh, it's our last podcast of the summer.

But in this era of climate catastrophe and also not being in school anymore, I kind of feel like summer lasts through the end of September.

So, listeners, I hope y'all are enjoying the middle of summer, which is nowhere close to ending.

We still have much of it left.

And I'm so excited for our show this month because we have two topics to discuss that

truly span the full range of cultural and political sophistication.

First, we're going to review red, white, and royal blue, the new adaptation of Casey McQuiston's

best-selling gay romance novel. It's out on Amazon Prime now, and it features two men with, I would

say, almost identical bodies. It's heavier on the ROM than the calm, although it professes to be both.

And it is really apolitical as anything, despite having a presidential election as one of the

major moving parts of the story. Then for our second topic, we are going to talk to Pigeon Pogonis,

a brilliant intersex activist and educator who's out with a new book called Nobody Needs to Know.

The book is part memoir of their childhood and coming of age and part crediker about their work to stop non-consensual surgeries on intersex kids.

That is going to be an amazing conversation.

I'm thrilled that Pigeon is going

to be here with us. And I'm really excited to hear what both of you have to think about both of these

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