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🗓️ 16 August 2023
⏱️ 64 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to Outward. Slate's podcast about the first woman president of the United States, |
0:13.2 | trying desperately to get her bisexual son on prep. But more on that later, I'm Christina |
0:20.7 | Kateruchi, a senior writer at Slate. It's great to be back with you guys. Yes, I am |
0:26.6 | Jules Gil Peters and that's your royal highness to all of us. I am Ryan Lauder. I'm an |
0:33.9 | editor at Slate. So I was gonna say like, oh, it's our last podcast of the summer. But in this |
0:40.3 | era of climate catastrophe and also not being in school anymore, I kind of feel like summer |
0:46.3 | last through the end of September. So listeners, I hope y'all are enjoying the middle of summer, |
0:53.1 | which is nowhere close to ending. We still have much of it left. And I'm so excited for our show |
0:58.9 | this month because we have two topics to discuss that truly span the full range of cultural |
1:05.3 | and political sophistication. First, we're going to review red, white, and royal blue, the new |
1:12.7 | adaptation of Casey McQuiston's best-selling gay romance novel. It's out on Amazon Prime now, |
1:19.1 | and it features two men with, I would say, almost identical bodies. It's heavier on the |
1:26.3 | rom than the calm, although it professes to be both. And it is really apolitical as anything, |
1:33.6 | despite having a presidential election as one of the major moving parts of the story. |
1:38.0 | Then for our second topic, we are going to talk to Pigeon Pagones, a brilliant intersex |
1:44.4 | activist and educator who's out with a new book called Nobody Needs To Know. The book |
1:49.1 | is part memoir of their childhood and coming of age and part creditor about their work to stop |
1:55.7 | non-consensual surgeries on intersex kids. That is going to be an amazing conversation. I'm thrilled |
2:00.3 | that Pigeon is going to be here with us. And I'm really excited to hear about both of you have to |
2:03.6 | think about both of these things. But first, Brian, what's in our mailbox this month? |
2:10.1 | Christina, I'm so happy because we've got a bunch of mail in our mailbox this month. We'd |
2:15.2 | love to hear from you guys. And yeah, it just warms our hearts to see those responses. So, |
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