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Big Mood, Little Mood with Daniel M. Lavery

Outward: Masculinity and Muscles with Michael Andor Brodeur

Big Mood, Little Mood with Daniel M. Lavery

Slate Podcasts

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Sexuality, Relationships

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 December 2024

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

This week, Bryan Lowder chats with Michael Andor Brodeur, author of Swole: The Making of Men and the Meaning of Muscle, to unpack the complex intersections of fitness, masculinity, and queer identity. From the sweaty intimacy of the gym to the charged symbolism of muscle, Brodeur examines how bodies become sites of desire, power, and transformation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Do we really need another computer?

0:02.0

One that's faster, more powerful.

0:04.0

Not everyone does.

0:05.0

But to reinvent music using a neural processor,

0:08.0

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or bring your vision to life with AI-powered co-creator,

0:12.0

then a copilot Plus PC can make a difference.

0:15.0

A powerful AI computer is not for everyone.

0:18.0

But if you're trying to change the world,

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even if just your own,

0:21.1

we built one for you. Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs powered by Snapchat, the fastest, most intelligent

0:26.7

Windows PCs ever. Bachelor life varies with you switching settings. Hello, everyone and welcome to Outward Slate's podcast for the LGBTQs and you.

0:51.5

I'm Brian Louder, an editor at Slate, and I'm really excited about this week's show

0:56.2

because we're finally going to get a chance to talk about a book that I've been wanting to cover

0:59.5

since it came out earlier this year. It's called Swole, The Making of Men and the Meaning of Muscle,

1:04.0

by Michael Andrew Broder. Now, in case some of those words make you a little itchy,

1:08.8

know that Michael is gay and a very talented critic, so this is

1:12.4

definitely not some unexamined Jimbrose circle jerk. Instead, it is a kaleidoscopic mix of memoir,

1:18.9

history, criticism, and political commentary with writing that is just bursting at the seams

1:23.4

with intelligence, warmth, and humor. And it all circles around this question of why so many men,

1:28.4

including the author, want to be big. And it also explores what that desire can teach us about the

1:34.2

evolution of masculinity over time, as well as the crisis that it seems to be experiencing today.

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