Outward: Conversion Therapy and Survival with Lucas Wilson

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Slate Podcasts

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Sexuality, Relationships

4.4 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Bryan Lowder talks with writer and scholar Lucas Wilson about his new book, Shame Sex: Survivors’ Stories of Conversion Therapy. They chat about Wilson’s experience navigating same-sex attraction while on an evangelical path, experiencing conversion therapy, and the complicated relationships he experienced along the way. He also shares powerful stories from other survivors and explores the enduring harm of these practices, offering a poignant look at resilience, shame, and healing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	What kind of weekend are you in the mood for?
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0:30.2	They've got a text.
0:34.7	That's right, dating royalty returns.
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0:51.6	when love will reign supreme.
1:06.6	Hello, everybody, and welcome to Outward Slate's LGBTQ podcast.
1:12.6	I'm Brian Lauder and editor at Slate.
1:18.3	Regular listeners will probably have noticed that we end every show with a little reminder or even exhortation, you might say, to stay gay. We started doing this early on because we thought
1:23.6	it was a cute sign-off, but also because, as we all know, there are plenty of
1:27.6	people and institutions that would very much like for us not to stay gay or trans, that would
1:33.0	like to see us change to straight or cis, or barring that, be erased from the world entirely.
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