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Big Mood, Little Mood with Daniel M. Lavery

Outward: A Short History of Transmisogyny with Jules Gill-Peterson

Big Mood, Little Mood with Daniel M. Lavery

Slate Podcasts

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Sexuality, Relationships

4.41.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 February 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Outward’s own Jules Gill-Peterson has a new book, A Short History of Transmisogyny, that gives insight into a fascinating queer history that stretches across time and around the world. In this episode, Bryan and Jules dig deep into the origins of transmisogyny and the liberatory beauty of trans femininity Podcast production by Palace Shaw. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to Outward Slates Podcast about Everything LGBTQ.

0:16.7

I'm Brian Lauter, I'm editor at Slate and we are going to get right into things today.

0:21.6

No chatter up top because because we have, as they say, a very special episode.

0:27.5

For you this week, our own Jules Gold Peterson is going to be in the hot seat.

0:31.7

Jules, are you ready for that? It feels so different I'm very

0:36.4

excited who knows what's going to happen this is an outward first for me. Yeah it might get wild we'll find out.

0:42.3

You are in the hot seat because Jules has a fantastic new book out. It's called a short history of trans misogyny. And the title is sort of Demure. this one packs a really remarkable amount of history, argument, and storytelling into its felt like 150 or so pages.

0:59.0

I will tell you that just in reading it for the podcast is like expanded and at times like challenged my thinking about the subjects that covers about the hatred, the fear of the tokenizing of trans femininity.

1:11.0

This seems to pervade our world and it's inspired me to consider like more deeply the relationship

1:16.1

especially between trans femininity and like quote-unquote gay male culture that I hold

1:21.1

very dear and talk about a lot so it's a really rich and important book

1:25.2

And I can't wait to honestly read it again and learn more from it because it bears that much attention

1:30.2

So we've got a lot to talk about in that but first I did just want to take one minute to acknowledge that we got some thoughtful pushback on our last episode about all of the strangers, Andrew Hayes' new film, and we hear you, we are gathering those notes.

1:42.6

We're gonna respond to them soon in a future pod episode.

1:45.8

So if you've got more thoughts about that

1:47.6

that you haven't sent, please keep them coming.

1:49.3

We love to hear from y'all, and we will be addressing

1:51.9

that spicy feedback soon.

1:53.3

Spicy but good. Yes, very good sorry yes.

1:56.0

Much appreciated feedback. We love we love to hear thoughtful feedback and we

1:59.7

appreciate it and take it seriously.

2:01.3

Okay we're going to take a short break and then we will be back to talk about Jules's

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