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You don't know what episode we're on but we do know that we have part two of our

interview with Stu Finer that's airing today if you remember

part one was episode 15 where Stu Finer sat down and he gave us a candid inside

look of his mind and telling us what went through it when his son came out as gates of him in high school

and the challenges that they had spawning from that conversation from him coming out.

So what we did on this episode was we dove a little bit further into Stu's personal life and

we got the context behind the actions that led up to some of the difficulties

from his son coming out exactly and we talked about specifically how the rest of his family members handled it.

So if you remember in the first episode we talked a little bit about his relationship with his brothers and how that changed.

This episode we dive more into that.

We dive more into Stu's own childhood,

hearing about how he was raised

and how that affects how you treat your kids

and you know, it was really interesting.

Exactly. And his wife, we talked a lot about Sandy how she handled it

we talked about the story that he led into a little bit last time which was

growing up in the 70s in Long Island how gay people were treated some of the things that he did

To him his friends did to mistreat them and it was kind of like an open therapy session

Which was super interesting because a lot of the times at least from my perspective when you

hear about coming out stories you only hear about the coming out story from the

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