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I joined here by Mitch Tishler and Pete Haley gentlemen. We've just concluded the Ron Rivera

Martin Mayhew press conference. I think Ron probably did 70% of the talking. I tried to

specifically ask Martin a question, but that dude provides outside of wanting to get that

information out on Belbran and Sheriff. He provides zero information. Which is, I mean,

Beemidge said, like that's exactly how he was as a player. Like he's just a quiet guy. And that's

okay. He's an intrinsic thinker. I'll say this. I thought, so two things are going to happen.

We're going to talk about Ron Rivera's presser and what we made of it. Then after that,

we're going to run my interview with Ron Rivera, which was fairly lengthy. We talked,

I don't know how long it went, but it was longer than normal. And I feel like we covered a lot

of different things. And I feel like where maybe Ron got a bit not testy because the vibe during

the presser was kind of perhaps jovial, but like and not defensive, but animated. I feel like

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