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Our Perception Of Time Shapes The Way We Think About Climate Change

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🗓️ 24 January 2023

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Most people are focused on the present: today, tomorrow, maybe next year. Fixing your flat tire is more pressing than figuring out if you should buy an electric car. Living by the beach is a lot more fun than figuring out when your house might be flooded by rising sea levels.

That basic human relationship with time makes climate change a tricky problem.

Host Emily Kwong talks to climate correspondent Rebecca Hersher about how our obsession with the present can be harnessed to tackle our biggest climate problems.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to Shortwave from NPR.

0:04.3

Hi, it's Emily Kwong, Shortwave co-host here with Rebecca Hersher,

0:09.2

friend of the show, friend of the earth, friend to creatures big and small.

0:13.8

Okay, all right, don't get carried away.

0:15.8

And a friendly NPR climate reporter.

0:18.6

Indeed, I am friendly in that context.

0:21.6

Why are you here, though?

0:22.8

I'm here because now that it's 2023,

0:26.1

we're officially one year closer to a bunch of important climate goals.

0:29.9

So I thought we might chat about that, but in kind of an unexpected way.

0:33.9

That sounds fun, actually.

0:35.7

What climate goals are we one year closer to?

0:39.3

Well, 2030 is the deadline for the US to cut its greenhouse gas emissions in half.

0:45.4

And 2050 is the global deadline to get to zero emissions.

0:49.9

And both of those goals are really important if we want to avoid catastrophic warming later in the century.

0:55.8

These are some big goals.

0:58.1

Are there any closer goals, though?

1:00.7

I mean, for this year, yeah, for next year,

1:03.9

because 2030, 2050 later this century, that is a long time from now.

1:10.2

There are closer goals, but I refuse to tell you about them, actually,

1:13.9

because today we're going to focus on the future and talk about that exact thing you just said.

1:18.8

Why today, tomorrow and this year feel so much more important than decades in the future.

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