I was really scared of you.

We were not friends.

I didn't know what you were.

You always felt edgy to be. Oh, wow. I need to schedule dentists of life. Oh, no. I don't even want to say how many years. Wait, years. Since before you had CJ? I don't know if this is inappropriate for the podcast, but I put kiss more. Matt will kiss me and sometimes I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like a smooch kiss. What is your best advice for being a wife?

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We're your host Abby Howard and Abby Howard. Wow. This is crazy. I feel very nervous to be honest. Yeah. I have butterflies. Mostly just because I'm excited, but I have full confidence in this being really natural for us because we talk all the time. Totally. And we got Adi here on the production

mic. Hello. It's a family affair. I know it's fun to just watch you guys in the studio on the

outside. It's kind of weird. I like it. I like it. Less pressure on me to look good every episode.

True. True. I feel like we just filmed our announcement video right before this and it was like a scripted fun thing and I feel like I'm talking like I'm on a script. Like I have to turn off my acting brain because I've never had an acting brain. You're natural though. I appreciate that. We should probably first address for those that don't know why we have

the exact same name oh yeah that's a good part we always make that stupid joke yeah it's either

really convenient or really confusing oh our family couldn't afford nothing i think that's from

zach and kodi it is from zack and kodi our family could only afford one name yeah no but we are technically you're Abigail, and I'm really going to train myself for the sake of this podcast to call you Abigail, but I've called you Abby for a decade now. Yeah, I know. It's crazy how long we've known each other. Yeah. Well, a decade, actually. A decade, yeah, a whole 10 years. But to be fair, the early years. We were not know you were. I love to do. We should get into that. So different. Yeah, let's get into it. Okay, so we're both Abby, Abigail, for her. My full name's just Abby, for those of you that may not have known that. But we married brothers. Yep. Caleb and Matt. They're 18 months apart. They're pretty close. Yeah. Yeah, always closer than I think. Caleb seems like such an older brother, so I always feel like he's much older. I think too because Caleb and Matt weren't super close for a lot of their lifetime until we all got married and we're in the same life stage. That I feel like now they're closer and they feel less

of an age gap but I feel like growing up there felt like a big big age gap yeah because we're all high

school sweethearts which is also wild yeah yeah that is fun okay so kind of get into it okay

do you remember the first time you met me I don't okay yeah so we started dating we both started

dating in high school yes I started dating Caleb when I was a senior and he was a junior. And then we dated all through high school college. And I remember you coming into the picture. I think maybe when I was still in high school. No. No, I'm sorry. I was a sophomore in college.

Because you and Matt started dating your senior year

right after junior year yeah yeah so I was maybe right before you went into sophomore year yes so I feel

like we never really had a ton of time together because you lived in a different city I was in college

just so far apart yeah but I have distinct memories of you from the beginning. I was really scared of you.

I think that's so crazy. Every time you say that, you're like, you were so cool. I was never cool.

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