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The News Agents

Our next PM’s nightmare inheritance

The News Agents

Global

Government, Daily News, News, Politics

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

When Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak cross the Downing Street threshold, Britain’s most senior civil servant will take them into the cabinet room to brief them on nuclear codes, critical national security threats and vital economic data. Gus O’Donnell was that civil servant and oversaw the transition from Blair to Brown, and Brown to Cameron. Lord O’Donnell has some candid advice for the next PM on how to rebuild trust with the British people. And following his death, can a line be drawn from Mikhail Gorbachev and what is happening in Ukraine today? We speak to the journalists Allan Little and Anne Applebaum. Producer: Gabriel Radus Planning: Melissa Tutesigensi Deputy Editor: Tom Hughes Executive Producer: Dino Sofos For exclusive daily videos from The News Agents visit Global Player: https://www.globalplayer.com/videos/brands/news-agents/the-news-agents/ The News Agents is a Global Player Original and a Persephonica Production.

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0:00.0

The Newsagents podcast is brought to you by HSBC UK, opening up a world of opportunity.

0:08.4

This is a global player original podcast.

0:11.9

Hello again. We're back. We've had lots of lovely feedback.

0:15.1

You've actually taken us around the world.

0:17.7

On your dog walks, on your run.

0:20.4

Train rides?

0:21.1

Trains, planes.

0:22.7

Automobiles.

0:23.5

Chris, actually, was on a real plane.

0:26.2

He was listening to us on the way to Korea.

0:28.4

And all sorts of other people have got in touch to say where they were when they listened to the first podcast.

0:33.2

Of course, we did America.

0:34.7

America is going to be our French fries.

0:37.2

But Britain will be our bread and butter.

0:40.3

That was my gag.

0:41.3

And it's not a great gag, but it's good enough. And somehow you managed your power to make him deliver your bad gags. It's quite extraordinary.

0:49.3

I swear it sounded better in my head. I'm sure it did. Yeah. Anyway, today, we've raised the bar a bit. We're going to talk

0:54.7

to God, and that is Gus O'Donnell, G-O-D. And he's the former Cabinet Secretary, the top civil

1:01.5

servant, if you like, for the whole government. He was that man. Why is that interesting right now?

1:07.8

Because in a week's time, we're going to have that brand new government, a brand new prime minister. And that top civil servant is going to have to tell them just what they

1:17.1

need to do to make the country work. Yeah, because Gus O'Donnell's successor, as cabinet secretary,

1:22.5

that top civil servant in the country, Simon Case, will literally be the first person that the new Prime Minister,

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